[Sticky] Know Thy Self - Mega Thread ~ mind, body, spirit, wholeness, resources
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One mantra that I got from Jim Fortin has been particularly helpful:
'I am the thinker of my thoughts and, being the thinker of my thoughts, I can think whatever I want'.
or
'You are not your thoughts, you are the thinker of your thoughts'.
It's sometimes easier said than done, but there's great power and relief that comes from realising that your thoughts are ultimately your own. Jim Fortin's work in general has been very helpful to me. I've linked his podcast above.
Expressive writing is great too. It's simply a matter of laying your thoughts out. You can then sort of work through them and pick them apart. Like a lawyer trying to pick apart the inconsistencies in your limiting beliefs and destructive thoughts. You start to ask yourself where these beliefs come from. Whether or not they're absolutely true and then you can provide counter evidence. This kind of work mostly provides awareness and awareness provides an opportunity to do something different. To snap out of autopilot and choose a different outcome.
Another analogy I find helpful is to consider the sensation of thirst. It's one of the body's self regulating mechanisms. It's a sensation to correct for dehydration. However, the sensation alone is pointless without awareness and action. You'll still be dehydrated unless you then choose to take a drink. Now consider all of the more subtle signals that your body is constantly sending you, but that you're unable to perceive. I think a lot of the answers will float up to the surface once we quieten the mind and silence the incessant chatter of technology, social media and modern society. For me, that's been the major goal of meditation. To cultivate the skills to sit quietly and let answers emerge. And to make an effort to experience silence on a regular basis and to distance myself from the constant ''buzz'' of technology.
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Another thing that's been huge is understanding the role of nutrition in stress and anxiety. There's a tremendous amount of lies and misinformation when it comes to nutrition, even within the 'alternative' anti pharma world. So even if you realise that food can help with the mind, you're likely to go down an unhealthy path. This was my own experience and something I see consistently with the popularity of ketogenic diets, intermittent fasting, veganism, and the irrational fear of sugar and carbohydrates that has become so common. I can't help but think that much of this has been engineered by more sinister forces, rather than by compassionate biohackers and health gurus.
In a nutshell, our bodies need to feel safe. They need to feel like there is an abundance of resources in order to heal and concern themselves with anything other than survival. Many popular nutritional ideologies restrict the supply of energy and resources to allegedly improve health, while others do this to make us more resilient to stress. This last bit sounds good but it comes at the cost of our health. Being resilient to stress doesn't make us healthy, it simply makes us more able to tolerate stress.
Here are some resources that have helped me understand nutrition better:
This blog and particularly his Instagram account has a good grasp of more conspiratorial ideas as they relate to nutrition:
https://cowseatgrass.org/category/stressful-thoughts/
https://www.instagram.com/cowseatgrassblog/
Billy Craig has some great information too.
Authoritarian totalitarian living
Boot Concentration Camp
Human genome project
Protective paranoia
Polarity
Jay Feldman: Is depression really caused by a chemical imbalance?
The truth about depression with Jay Feldman
The work of Ray Peat, PhD. He seems to have a unique grasp of the history of nutritional recommendations and how these have been manipulated to control the masses.
Learned Helplessness
Pathological Science & General Electric: Threatening the paradigm
Academic authoritarians, language, metaphor, animals, & science
The great fish oil experiment
Intuitive knowledge and its development
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pabaracus wrote: 'I am the thinker of my thoughts and, being the thinker of my thoughts, I can think whatever I want'.
or
'You are not your thoughts, you are the thinker of your thoughts'.
I like where you are coming from on this - I have come across a different angle.
WE are not our thoughts - we are the observer of them. the witness to them, they are like clouds passing by, they do not own us we do not own them.
We're pretty much on the same page, until .. most of the thoughts, voices, conversation we have in our head do not origniate with us, they are not ours.
Some are muses or ideas waiting for a person to bring them into manifestation. for example inventions seemed to be developed at the ame time by differnt people in differnt places - light bulb, TV, telephone are a few examples. Stephen king talks about this as the writers job, to remove the rubbish from the sotry that is floating out there and craft it into a book.
“People don't have ideas. Ideas have people.” ― Carl Jung
Others are our unknown 9sometimes known) empathic abilities to pick up the subconscious of other people - mothers and "gifted" children are good at this. Mothers because they share a mental connection to the new born so they can teach teach them the feelings baby has - hungry, tired, lonely, etc. spoiler women use this tactic to get some men to plant idea in the subconscious of men who do not fully own their own subconscious.
Gifted Children as per Alice Miller's book "The drama of the gifted Child"
The child develops empathic abilities to read the subconscious of the dysfunctional parent so as to avoid what ever abuse the parent subjects the child to.
Some of the thoughts are the media manipulations, the hot topics, the talking points, the advertisers, the latests song with a message that resonates.
I have taken a liking to Mooji and his guided meditations where he talsk about - YOU are awareness, aware of the thoughts, images, feelings that pass through you, YOU are the infinte of awareness etc etc give some a try
are you really the thinker of the thought to go buy the latest product that has been heavily advertised to you? or are you aware that the though appeared in you consciouness - it's a subtle differnce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7nvG3J8_NQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhEv5nnvup0
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nickzeptepi wrote: We're pretty much on the same page, until .. most of the thoughts, voices, conversation we have in our head do not origniate with us, they are not ours. Some are muses or ideas waiting for a person to bring them into manifestation. for example inventions seemed to be developed at the ame time by differnt people in differnt places - light bulb, TV, telephone are a few examples.
This is a concept that is very new to me. The idea that there are forces outside of our visible world (or our five senses) that interact and influence us. It's something that I'm starting to dip my toes into and it's sinking in but I still have that hyper rational left brain chatter that tends to dismiss or explain away these phenomena. Is there any recommended reading to deepen my knowledge on this or any exercises you'd recommend to ''tune in'' or begin to perceive these things, aside from standard meditation?
I will add 'The Drama Of The Gifted Child' to my reading list and try those meditations by Mooji. Thanks!
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pabaracus wrote: forces outside of our visible world (or our five senses) that interact and influence us. It's something that I'm starting to dip my toes into and it's sinking in
It's a learnning curve but there is a common thread amongst all ancient teachings, mystery schools, folk religions like animisim that there are other non physical energies that occupy the same space as we do. Even in the bible it says our fight is against powers and principlaities - but they left brian teach us that its aout worldy goverments - nope its the non organic archons.
If yuo have a christian upbringing try learing about gnsoticism - such as aeonbyte podcast - read the highlights form the secret book of john, and of the origins of the world - it specifically talks about the archons creating the current world of ours and how they fucked up making adam so had to give him a living soul.
the left brain chatter is them tellling you not to learn anything that might shine light on them - its a strong urge. Out of mind out of sight!!
nearly all mystery schools teach about being the observer and not the owner of thoughts.
I'd recomend you follow your path of what peaks your interest amongst all the fringe topics - go down the branch road discover whats down there but return to the main route of finding youe true Self in the jungian sense - actual thats a good book - Carl Jung - memories dreams and refelctions. the path of individaution as Jung puts it as also the same as the heros journey, or the chistian finding the kigdom within.
I had a direct personal experience with the mystery - supernatural events that my left brain told me to ignore but they just kept coming so i stopped the majority of radio and TV and listened to a wide variety of podcasts and delved a little deeper into those that resonated with me to find out some answers.
you have to unlearn the schooling you had to be able to learn the new stuff - and make your own judgements using what is likely to be true on the balance of probablities.
for example I was exposed to Electric universe stuff on podcasts quite a few times over a few years but I just couldn't hear what i was listening to, it took a couple of years of gettign other stuff under my belt before the penny dropped and i could start to find it interesting.
theres also some dead ends that some get lost down (flat earth - planet x, mud flood, moon landing, etc etc) that can capture you in a everdecreasing circle. yeah find out about them but dont get lost like some have.
a short cut to an experience of the mystery can be magic mushroms, the first time can be just great fun then do some more a month later for mind expansion that will demand more answers.
have fun on your journey.
Lol I stil obviously haven't figured out why spell check isn't working in my Firefox desktop. My lightening fast fingers betray me sometimes hahaha
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pabaracus wrote: This is a concept that is very new to me. The idea that there are forces outside of our visible world (or our five senses) that interact and influence us. It's something that I'm starting to dip my toes into and it's sinking in but I still have that hyper rational left brain chatter that tends to dismiss or explain away these phenomena. Is there any recommended reading to deepen my knowledge on this or any exercises you'd recommend to ''tune in'' or begin to perceive these things, aside from standard meditation?
Good on you for opening your mind to new ways of perceiving the world. I would suggest perhaps Susan Rennison to start with. She is a physicist AND a metaphysician. SHe has a very no nonsense approach to describing reality through electromagnetism. It ties science and spiritualilty together in a very accessible, if sometimes dense, way.
To start 'feeling' stuff, you could experiment with qi gong, which even if you can't feel the flow initially, is an excellent practice.
Finally, I would consider doing some research on ether. Once you can accept that the ether is real, a lot of things fall into place without having to come up with complicated explanations. Check out Aaron Murukami's work. He's very left brained in his work in free energy devices, but also applies this knowledge to spirituality and synchronicity etc.
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I'll second Qi Gong I have tried it and i do feel a energy flow - i should do more.
some one als recommended https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBtGM4p9zYXzu0bIlfvUJ9A if you dont like their presentations theres loads to discover
I have been doing the 24 moves of Thi Chi nearly every morning for the last 2 years. Your left brain will resist, tired, whats the point, or as mine did it will actively disrupt the practice. wondering mind or lack of focus on the here and now and even my breathing was against me - mine went to the fight or flight type short in the chest which pumps the cortisol into the brain. it was a struggle and i was not getting the full benefit.
When I've done Thi Chi while stoned (just a little) I intuit (hear the inner voice) "the dance of the gods" it is a physical ritual done over 1000s of years it is designed to balance the left and right hemispheres of the brain like a moving meditation.
People I have read, followed, listened to are
Neil Kramer
Anthony Peake
Carl Jung -
Gary lachman - does great synopsis books on the significant teachers
Jasun Horsley
Kirby Surprise - the technical break down of synchronicity
Gordon white
Micheal Tsarion
Topics inc
Gnosticism
Theosophy
Electric universe
Prediluvian history - Andrew collins, graham hancock -
Hero's journey - joseph campbell
Tarot
Modern magic - gordon white etc.
Chrome has spell check!!
Check out the book thread there's numerous links to free downloads
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nickzeptepi wrote: It's a learnning curve but there is a common thread amongst all ancient teachings, mystery schools, folk religions like animisim that there are other non physical energies that occupy the same space as we do. Even in the bible it says our fight is against powers and principlaities - but they left brian teach us that its aout worldy goverments - nope its the non organic archons.
If yuo have a christian upbringing try learing about gnsoticism - such as aeonbyte podcast - read the highlights form the secret book of john, and of the origins of the world - it specifically talks about the archons creating the current world of ours and how they fucked up making adam so had to give him a living soul.
Wow, thank you. Lots there to look into. I was raised Catholic and went through the whole obnoxious atheist phase in college. It's been interesting and enjoyable to reconnect with something that I had grown up with and had an intuitive connection to before it was ridiculed out of me. I'll look into Gnosticism. I also keep hearing about Archons these past few weeks so it seems like the time to investigate them properly.
I've had good experiences with Tai Chi and Qi Gong. Definitely have a good sense of cultivating that energy within me. I also do a lot of breath work. It has made me much more sensitive to the energy within a room or between people. I imagine that my ability to perceive things beyond this will come in time. It's helpful to be encouraged to continue in that direction and to trust in the process. Thanks for all of your advice.
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rani wrote: . I would suggest perhaps Susan Rennison to start with. She is a physicist AND a metaphysician. SHe has a very no nonsense approach to describing reality through electromagnetism. It ties science and spiritualilty together in a very accessible, if sometimes dense, way.
To start 'feeling' stuff, you could experiment with qi gong, which even if you can't feel the flow initially, is an excellent practice.
Finally, I would consider doing some research on ether. Once you can accept that the ether is real, a lot of things fall into place without having to come up with complicated explanations. Check out Aaron Murukami's work. He's very left brained in his work in free energy devices, but also applies this knowledge to spirituality and synchronicity etc.
I'll look into her. It definitely helps me to see the thought process of someone that comes from a scientific background.
Again, almost synchronistically, I've been drawn to the concept of Ether. I couldn't explain what Ether is yet but I've had this deep sense that I need to investigate it. I've started with Shamangineer's first THC appearance where he discusses it and I plan to work through all of that content systematically. I'll include Aaron Murukami in that.
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sorry but I channeled this. I say channeled because im not very good with words and I think this is the most amazing thing ive said heh
automatically the things you discover lie beneath you. you die then came back to re discover the lies..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-mJnYmdVmQ
Watched/listened to this interview with Gabor Mate yesterday, and boy, what an insightful discussion about trauma, and its cascading effects unto the world. Love the parts about traumatized world leaders in power, as well as recognizing the impulses of our own traumas, and how it affects everyday things, including parenting.
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Interesting video with a good section in the middle about individual traumas and a new breathing technique. lots of other good interviews on his channel as well.
How can we even begin to solve many of society's problems if our conversations keep breaking down? Polarisation has been growing for decades, and supercharged by social media filter bubbles.
This is the first in a series of films from Rebel Wisdom looking at the science and psychology of polarisation.
We speak to Alex Evans, a former government adviser now looking at the roots of division through the Collective Psychology Project: https://www.collectivepsychology.org/
Also to superstar trauma specialists Dr Stephen Porges, Peter Levine, Gina Ross and Steve Haines about how our nervous system is intimately involved in assessing safety and threat, and how that underlies all conflict and polarisation. How do you recalibrate your nervous system - especially if it has felt danger or threats over a long period of time, there's a new breathing technique!
We will be releasing one of these films each Thursday in August.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUNHj5eh7BM
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Hey Folks,
Wanted to share with you this video interview from Matthew Belair, he has a great podcast/Youtube channel on Mind, Body, Spirit topics.
This one, he's got Paul O'Brien, a former entrepreneur, and now author of a book soon-to-be-released called Intuitive Intelligence: Make Life-changing decisions with perfect timing.
While the name may seem a bit cheesy, I gave the interview a try, and found the guy to be (very) interesting. He has quite an eccentric path that led him to eventually become a self-taught developer in the 90's, where he came up with an astrology software that ended up selling for millions. He's also created a I-Ching book and app (Visionary I-Ching App).
It's the latest that got my attention. Though I've never studied the I-Ching, it fascinates me on an intuitive level, as being a codice to chart probabilities. Sort of like Tarot or Astrology (all fields which I don't expertise at all).
However, I do resonate with the importance of cultivating inner/heart/intuitive intelligence as an essential component of self-knowing and growth. These things are often hard to describe in words, but you "know" it (and sometimes the mind-chatter in your head "disapproves" or ignores it).
Another thing I resonated with, is that the toughest chapters of our lives often end up being blessings in disguise. I find this to always be the case, no matter how horrific a situation can turn out to be. A reminder that there is purpose to suffering, and a "reward" at the end of the tunnel.
Personally, I have become better over the years at recognising my intuition vs ego-based thinking, even though it's a tough task.
There's one line in the interview that stood out, which I deeply resonated with:
(49:40) "The stronger the feeling, the less trustworthy it is as a basis to decision-making."
I find this crucial, not only in decision-making, but in listening, especially when conflicts arise, and the impulses to defend my point often come from an emotional-level (usually out of fear).
Big wisdom in remaining calm, and silent quiet in the face of adversity.
This may sound counter-intuitive to the rational, logical brain. And yet it's been proven right in almost every instance in my personal experience.
If anything, Intuition is the generator of the pieces of the puzzle. Then, (and only then) logic is used to put the pieces into a coherent mosaic. (but not the other way around, which is how we're usually taught in modern culture). Otherwise the latter results in clever, but wisdom-lacking thinking, in my opinion.
The inception of an intuitive thought, or concept, is akin to a very gentle breeze, almost too faint to be perceived. And yet those are the ones that often ended up, if nurtured well, becoming the catalyst to life-changing events.
In fact, if I look back in my life, all the big decisions, like moving abroad, which program to study, or even choosing my friends, and partner, or finding work, have often started from a similar place where I couldn't quite pin-point the catalyst, and yet I somehow knew it was the right decision (at that time at least)
(*I'm sure other factors, including karma-points & spirit guides are involved as well, but perhaps that's also what intuition covers)
Equally explosive insight, which is the whole theme of Paul O'Brien's book and interview: Timing.
And he talks about what confirms the right timing of your intuition, are the synchronicities you uncover. BOOM. I'll let that one sink in.
So that's a powerful lesson right there. (And one that makes me feel this guy knows what he's talking about).
Anyways, that's it for now. Hope some of you can enjoy the insights contained in the interview. His book will be available soon. He also has a podcast, Pathways, celebrating its 33rd anniversary (hats off) where he interviews authors, inventors, and activists supporting creative development.
May Peace be upon You.
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The content in this is intense and quite significant.
AION is one of the last books Jung wrote so it condenses and builds on most of his life works, remember the Red book was highly secret at this time so it tries to convey what he wrote about in the Red book into this more academic work
They have already covered Shadow, Anima and animus, unconscious in previous episodes but this one on "The Self" (not yourself) is deep, very deep.
I learnt a lot from this even though I've been plodding along the individuation path for a while, mines been covered in treacle, slow and sticky progress, with various barricades.
There's some great banter along the way, and their fresh and vibrant enthusiasm blows the dust off and makes the dense heavy topic of The SELF more accessible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIL5XilhJw
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