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jdaneway
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I think I just answered my own question. I was typing up a question about the original source/symbolism for the Lion and the Serpent in the Gnostic Mass, one that did not include Crowlian references to phallus or lust.
I think this is it - Chnoubis
https://symbolsage.com/the-chnoubis-symbol-origin-and-meaning/

Any other ideas? I've read the Serpent represents the Mystery and Kundalini. There's the alchemical lion eating the serpent. I'm sure there are a million and one references of lions and serpents individually, but I was looking for one together. The bible reference to lions stamping out serpents or the story of Daniel in the lion's den doesn't really fit.

I have one more question I'll post separately. Thank you!

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Topic starter Posted : June 17, 2021 8:26 PM
orchid20
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You wanted some ideas - here's a few:

Inert Kundalini is energy coiled at the base of the spine that rises like a serpent when awakened; moving up the spine and lighting up the chakras (nerve plexuses) as it ascends.

In astrology, Leo (fixed fire) is represented by a lion and Aquarius (fixed air) is represented by a man. In the northern hemisphere, Leo is the hottest part of the year and Aquaruis the coldest.

The chakras, if one were to grab one of those prettily drawn posters from any new age chotchki store, are represented by colors - from red for the root chakra (the color closest to infrared/heat and therefore "Leo") to ultraviolet for the third eye chakra (the color with the shortest wavelength and closest to the color of the sky, or air/"Aquarius")

The Sphinx shows the body of a lion/Leo - representing the lower chakras; and the head of a man/Aquarius - representing the upper chakras.

Practitioners of Kundalini yoga try to facilitate "enlightenment" by raising the Kundalini/Shakti energy through the prospective chakras until it finally illuminates the "Crown" (colorless/1000 petal lotus) chakra at the top of the head.

So the "Lion eating the Serpent" may not necessarily be a good thing; because in this model it implies that Kundalini energy is entrapped in the lower chakras, preventing enlightenment.

Interesting side note: radio waves, including 5G/4G/etc... are at the lower ends of the spectrum - longer than infrared and even further from ultraviolet/crown chakra wavelengths.

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Posted : June 17, 2021 9:56 PM
jdaneway
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Also, here is the Gnostic Mass Lion and Serpent language I was referring to, taken from this OTO website: http://goldenthread-oto.org/what-is-the-mystery-of-mystery/ April 2017 Darwin, The Origin of Species, and the Gnostic Mass
“I believe in one secret and ineffable LORD; and in one Star in the company of Stars of whose fire we are created, and to which we shall return; and in one Father of Life, Mystery of Mystery, in His name CHAOS, the sole viceregent of the Sun upon Earth; and in one Air the nourisher of all that breaths.
And I believe in one Earth, the Mother of us all, and in one Womb wherein all men are begotten, and wherein they shall rest, Mystery of Mystery, in Her name BABALON.

And I believe in the Serpent and the Lion, Mystery of Mystery, in His name BAPHOMET.”

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Topic starter Posted : June 18, 2021 1:52 AM
jdaneway
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orchid20 wrote:
You wanted some ideas - here's a few:

Inert Kundalini is energy coiled at the base of the spine that rises like a serpent when awakened; moving up the spine and lighting up the chakras (nerve plexuses) as it ascends.

In astrology, Leo (fixed fire) is represented by a lion and Aquarius (fixed air) is represented by a man. In the northern hemisphere, Leo is the hottest part of the year and Aquaruis the coldest.

The chakras, if one were to grab one of those prettily drawn posters from any new age chotchki store, are represented by colors - from red for the root chakra (the color closest to infrared/heat and therefore "Leo") to ultraviolet for the third eye chakra (the color with the shortest wavelength and closest to the color of the sky, or air/"Aquarius")

The Sphinx shows the body of a lion/Leo - representing the lower chakras; and the head of a man/Aquarius - representing the upper chakras.

Practitioners of Kundalini yoga try to facilitate "enlightenment" by raising the Kundalini/Shakti energy through the prospective chakras until it finally illuminates the "Crown" (colorless/1000 petal lotus) chakra at the top of the head.

So the "Lion eating the Serpent" may not necessarily be a good thing; because in this model it implies that Kundalini energy is entrapped in the lower chakras, preventing enlightenment.

Interesting side note: radio waves, including 5G/4G/etc... are at the lower ends of the spectrum - longer than infrared and even further from ultraviolet/crown chakra wavelengths.

Yes! Kundalini is everywhere. I think this image is telling as well. The lion, the man, the ox and the eagle - tetramorph.
Source: https://gyllenegryningen.blogspot.com/2009/04/sabbatian-qabalah-and-its-relation-to.html

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Topic starter Posted : June 18, 2021 2:02 AM
orchid20
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I've never seen the Tetramorph shown that way. I keep thinking of the Wheel of Fortune card in the RWS Tarot. You probably already know that the Eagle is another symbol for Scorpio (so is the Phoenix).

Kundalini IS everywhere there is life, but chakra opening doesn't happen instantaneously, if at all. When it does happen, it is not necessarily pleasant as the energy system does some dramatic housecleaning. From a living systems perspective, the apocalypse itself may just be the opening of the seven chakras on a very large scale (I'm sure there's a THC guest somewhere who has talked about this).

Tyson Yunkaporta, who is a modern day ambassador of one of humankind's oldest surviving cultures, believes in multiple apocalypses. So maybe there is one for *each* chakra.

Straying a bit off topic but this subject has always been fascinating to me. Thanks.

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Posted : June 18, 2021 11:44 AM
jdaneway
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Cool. I have something new to read about - thanks for the Yunkaporta tip! Tetramorph, four horsemen, Wheel of Fortune. Kundalini, Kabbalah. 7 days of creation. The four fold noble truths of Buddhism. Four Alchemical Elements. Seven Stages of Alchemy. Seven seals of Solomon. There are seven flames over that Chnoubis head too. It's all numbers and gematria.
In the picture - Yod Hey Vav ? (Rightto left). The interesting thing is the letter on the left above the Ox does not look like Hey, as it should.There's a dot in the arch. Is it Tav? I wonder why? I've seen other version of this where the ox was Aleph and the lion was Shin. I think they're all supposed to represent the many names of G-d. Anyway . . .

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Topic starter Posted : June 18, 2021 7:18 PM
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