Tony Ortega Interview on Scientology NXIVM and Cults on The Higherside Chats Podcast

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Tony Ortega is a journalist who was formerly the editor of The Village Voice. He has written about Scientology since 1995, and his book The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper about Scientology’s most infamous campaign of terror, came out in May 2015. He continues to monitor breaking developments around the world from an undisclosed location in an underground bunker he shares with four cats and one of them wrinkly Shar Pei dogs. His latest book, Battlefield Scientology: Exposing L Ron Hubbard’s Dangerous “Religion” is a great collection of highlights from his ongoing coverage of Scientology. Follow his work at



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19 Responses

  1. The Church or Scientology owns 1312-14 Chestnut Street in Philadelphia. When they bought it in 2000ish it was a vacant building. It is still a vacant/derelict building. This building is a skyscraper type building and it sits on the 3rd busiest intersection for foot traffic in the country.
    What are they doing with the building? There aren’t any Scientologists handing out leaflets on the corner. They can easily flip it in todays market and triple their money. Are they secretly performing rituals on the roof? Holding people in cells? I wonder if Ras Ben knows anything?
    Thanks for the great show.

  2. Nothing like a shill calling another shill out with such a large rock in a glass house (Mars) . Ha ha . But really the side stepping on intelligence gathering and the refusal to speculate the possibility that Scientology is or could be an intelligence contractor or a mind control experiment for whomever was epic / In my opinion of course.
    But aside from those concerns an informative and interesting interview!

  3. [quoting from the discussion] Funny to believe that in America, in the “21st century, there’s this group, that keeps people imprisoned, keeps children from their parents . . .” sounds like, not just Scientology, but what about the corporate “police” state, corporate prison system, and child protective services to me ! Police aren’t constitutionally authorized and are organized under corporations or LLCs, same with the prisons and CPS !

  4. Very interesting but very sad that they have taken all the spiritual ideas and twisted and distorted them so much as to make it laughable. So typical but so awful. Thanks Greg x

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