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Steven Strong | Out Of Australia, Dreamtime, & The Pleiadians

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Join host Greg Carlwood of The Higherside Chats podcast as he talks the Out of Australia theory, Dreamtime, and the Pleiades with guest, Steven Strong.

Many alternative researchers, archaeologists and scholars of history have dedicated countless hours pouring over ancient sites and remains in hopes of piecing together humanity’s hidden origins.

And while the secrets of our past still stand shrouded in mystery, researchers like today’s guest, Steven Strong, have spent decades peeling back the layers in an effort to reconstruct the damaged human psyche. And, thanks to his well-established relationships with the Original Elders of Australia and their willingness to share their sacred oral history, we now have a growing body of recently unearthed evidence to help bring the secret knowledge of mankind’s making to the light.
[5:55] In order to properly understand Strong’s alternative perspective, one must first be familiar with the Out of Africa theory. Steven starts by clearly defining the evidence used in the Out of Africa theory, giving a bit of background on the key players involved, and walking through the holes in this now widely scrutinized paradigm. Strong also walks us through the various genetic traits such as Denisovan and Neanderthal, where they are found and what these links tell us about the differences between Original People and Africans.
[14:42] After examining the holes in the Out of Africa theory, and touching upon the genetic differences found in the Original People of Australia, Greg and Steven discuss the cosmology and alternative oral history of the Elders, the healing process that began centuries ago, and the seeding of Pleiadian genes throughout the world.
[23:42] Greg and Steven discuss the work of Michael Tellinger, our genetic disposition as a slave race, the various other beings that have influenced humanity, and how it connects to Strong’s research.
 [33:00]  Continuing with their discussion of anomalous site in Australia that have the potential to rewrite history, Greg and Steven discuss Lake George and Panaramitee,  as well as the Kariong Glyphs and the perplexing pendant containing several unidentifiable metals.
[41:20] Greg and Steven discuss the element of magic in the Original culture, their Shamanic practices, and the possibilities available when people reach their true spiritual potential.
Become a Plus Member at to hear a second hour of all THC episodes. This week’s included:

– information and stories about the magic rocks that Stephen has been tasked with being the custodian of

– how the Australian Originals’ stories about their animals, like the dingo and kangaroo -as well as the genetic data, might tie into the theme of otherworldly origins

– Steven’s plan to use what he’s learned, along with the help of others and the magic rocks he has, to open a publicly available portal on a sacred island that translated to “Gateway to the Heavens”

– the history of Australia’s colonial takeover, how it differs from what happened with Columbus in America, and how it effected the people of Tasmania

– why the Egyptians have more of a right to set up an embassy in Australia, than the British do.

– how ancestral spirits of the land relate to Australian Originals’, and why they didn’t harm the invading British

– how ancient largely unknown sites in Australia compare, and often dwarf the scale of, more famous sites around the planet

– the struggle with the Australian government to keep them from bulldozing through an ancient 7 step pyramid to make way for a highway extension

A few valuable resources from the interview:
“Mitochondrial DNA and Human Evolution” (1987) by Rebecca Louise Cann, Mark Stoneking, and Allan Charles Wilson:
Uluru (Ayers Rock) in Australia:
Michael Tellinger’s “Slave Species of the Gods”:
Want more Steven Strong?
Check out his website “Forgotten Origin”:  where you can keep up-to-date on his latest research.

Or grab any of his books including, “Out of Australia”“Shunned: The Hidden History of Australians” and “Constructing a New World Map” on Amazon:

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Wonderful that you’ve managed to interview this great man! Excellent!!! This has made me Happy Dance hard and fast. ?


I consider this the history of the black Australians and nothing else. How can it be? Perhaps a bit of Egyptian history. The races are each distinct and have their own different markers be it genes, Skull shape, IQ scores, behavior, intelligence, etc. the races stay different too. I want to his complete bullshit lie and nonsense that white ppl are racists and no other race is. Do a test. Replace the word WHITE or EUROPEAN in place of any other race and and apply. White Entertainment TV channel! White pride? White Miss America? Hell no. But there certainly ARE two places where the white race IS allowed to be different and stand out. Those two instances are White privilege and white guilt. Whites have no privilege. We can’t even get good jobs or into good college due to that terribly racist contraption known as Affirmative Action. Just try to be a white male in our Machine cult. This shit needs to stop. I refuse to feel bad that my white ancestors were very smart and ingenious. All the other races have each had their own continents throughout vast time periods. Why was it all but until they were coloniezed that they finally crept out of the fucking Stone Age? And thank m supposed to feel guilty? I’m just sick of it. I’m sick of the lies and I’m sick of the retards who somehow feel proud that their ancestors were more oppressed than someone else’s. And I’m not speaking of slavery either. Anyone who’s done their homework already knows that 1) the word slave comes from the fact that there were just so damn many of WHITE Slavs. 2) Jews, Africans, and Arabs were the Magic dealers in black African slaves. 3) WHITE ppl abolished slavery.


My tablet is old and typing in it is as ridiculous as all the typos. I apologize. I hope you can make out what I’m saying still. That I do not apologize for. I wish it wasn’t true. But that’s another story. Do not allow yourself to be led around by emotionalism and not fact. I know I’m goina catch hell for this post and it will all come from you whites. Somebody’s got to speak up. Let it be me. I could truly not care any less what anyone thinks of me except my own family. No one can die for me therefore no ones goina live for me either.


Your frustration is understood and shared. In our modern Western civilization, every race is marginalized in a variety of ways. Ever notice how groups of people who receive government aid rarely thrive, although they remain heavily monitored by the government?

Controlling forces need followers, not people who tend to think for themselves, and certainly not populations from different backgrounds working together for a common good.

There is a Hegelian dialectic at play and we are all being manipulated.


I believe it is passed down western thinking that marginalizes peoples. I cannot really call it “western civilization” (having 10 hours of it in college) because the civilized do not kill people. All faulty roads lead to Rome. We need to erase a lot of Hobbes-like thinking and start viewing history with a critical mind, noting all the unique and isolated as important.


I agree. The United States in particular is lacking in critical thinking. Consequently, we are easily influenced, over-entertained, and largely blind to our own mistakes.
If this country had a revolution in critical thinking, many of the current damaging paradigms would shatter.


Wow really??. Not lookung good.


I only lasted 5 minutes during Gordon White nonsense and 3 minutes during Belzer. Is this more veiled left wing Chuck Schumer loving anti-Trump nonsense from Greg? Getting weird….


Am I being stupid? This plus episode is only 50+ minutes long.
Set me right somebody please!


Thanx G


I thought i was tripping until he said 2 hours. At the end. Thanks Greg 100%


Hey Carlwood, the version posted on Stitcher seems to be the last hour of the interview with no introduction.
Great effing episode though!


Where is the other hour of the show? The version in the app and here is only 52 minutes.


Apart from the show being 1 hour short. What happened at 17.28 minutes? It seems there is dialog missing not to mention the audio quality changes?
Will the whole 2 hours be made available or is there only 1 hour to this show.


I believe the guest started eating something.


Also at 26.11 an edit or jump to a completely different topic. Not sure if i want to cobtinue listening to this one until its fixed.


Any chance you might offer searching for shows by year?


Wow.. I’m so excited that you have Steven on. His work is amazing and much more logical than it seems. One really needs a full week or more to take in all the work and evidence he has gathered to get a real understanding of what he is presenting. I’m an Australian, this is an ancient land and the original people (native) feel way older than any other race I have yet encountered. Yes, it was common knowledge at one time that Egyptians had been here. My Grandfather’s generation were very interested in this.


I agree with everything Mr. Strong is saying. Everything. He’s such a wonderful story teller. Very enjoyable podcast! Thank you.


Love it! I’m an aussie and i can tell you ive been a devoted listener for 18 months, haven’t missed a show but do happy to hear another aussie after Wal Thornhill.. Sooo good! Cheers Carl fuckin love it!

Oh yeh i forget Gordon White is Australian too… i am a dumby:)


Wonderful show, Greg, can’t wait to get the book, there is just so much that we don’t know about, thanks!
Hopefully we will regain some of these abilities soon that these native people had and have, it is time.


I would like to hear from Aboriginals themselves. I thought the interview was beguiling and searched out more from Steven Strong and listened to 2 hours of him telling an interviewer how sure he was that people were going to go to sleep for three days in 2012 and only the good people will wake up. He espoused to his interviewer this was reported to him by and elder and how sure he was this would indeed happen. Now as far as any of us know, that didn’t happen. Perhaps, CERN pulled out a time line jump or something, but it doesn’t look good for his future prognostications, in my humble opinion. I don’t think the advice in the interview is bad, I’m just not counting on a big massive shift happening all at once.


The genetic data and fossil evidence do not lie – Homo sapiens all originate from an emergence event in Australasia and Southeast Asia. This includes Homo neanderthalensis and Homo denisova. If you want to dive into the scientific evidence, after reading Steven’s Out of Australia material you might want to dive into my own work on ‘The Into Africa Theory’. Perhaps also check out my article in the current edition of New Dawn Magazine (July-August).


I loved this show. Really was unique. We even got the spirits and underground entities in there. Even from an orthodox view, (NOT vatican BS ), if the story is broken down, humans were partially tampered with after man’s creation, those entities that did the tampering, finally died and became disembodied spirits.
I don’t know what the hell is going on, but I eat this stuff up.


Ya can’t ignore the work of Aborigine descendant Steve Richards now Greg 😉
It will take your show to a new level if you run Holographic Kinetics alongside this show.
As usual there will be a few discrepancies between the 2 shows, but many of the jigsaw pieces that your listeners crave will fall into place.
As for ‘hoping’ we will regain some of these abilities, HK re-unites us with our own divine spirit and this journey starts to become a reality.
There will be large doses of cognitive dissonance no doubt BUT we all know who is truly responsible for their own journey….what more needs to be said?


He said that she said that they said that once upon a time this guy told someone that there was a story about a thing that was amazing. I’m not sure but…

“Must be aliens”

Ugh. Two hours of rambling redneck logic.

They can’t all be winners.

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