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Marion Nestle | Food Politics, Industry-Funded Research, & The Unsavory Truth

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Marion Nestle is one of the nation’s best experts and a prolific writer when it comes to subjects like food politics, nutrition science, the pitfalls of industry-funded research, and deceptive marketing in the food space. She is Paulette Goddard Professor, of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health, Emerita, at New York University, which she chaired from 1988-2003 and from which she officially retired in September 2017. She is also Visiting Professor of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell. She earned a Ph.D. in molecular biology and an M.P.H. in public health nutrition from the University of California, Berkeley, and has been awarded honorary degrees from Transylvania University in Kentucky (2012) and from the City University of New York’s Macaulay Honors College (2016).

She is the author of six prize-winning books:

She also has written two books about pet food:

Her most recent book is Unsavory Truth: How Food Companies Skew the Science of What We Eat (Basic Books, 2018).

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-Deceptive marketing aimed at the older generations. -Ultra processed foods, calories, and proper nutrition. -The animal welfare aspect to the corporate food industry. -The shady actions of food companies outside of the US. -Ethics when dealing with the industry and industry funding. -The economic research service. -How the current administration is effecting things in Marion’s wheelhouse.
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interesting talk. I’d disagree a little on the ‘Americans not being vitamin deficient’ comment. I’m an MD (a ‘monster in a white coat’ haha a reference to another podcast), and I check vitamin D levels in all of my patients, and I–do something about it.
No Big Surprise: 90% are not just low, but shockingly deficient. And I think it’s not a vitamin but a hormone that is essential to human neuroendocrinologic function. Get your sunlight in the early am and late in the afternoon (when the shadows are long, so you don’t burn)!

And: I think the pet food industry is just sickening. The ‘waste’ products that go into what we feed man’s best friend are simply appalling. Maybe The Carlwood can look into this. They actually use cancer-ridden, tumour-laden animals and roadkill to put into our dog/cat food. And beaks and feathers? oh my! it’s no wonder that our pets don’t live into their 20’s or 30’s and get cancer and a host of other stress-borne illnesses. I do agree with her comments on our pets eating too much and not getting enough exercise. Sounds like someone we all know.

I’m in academia and so disillusioned with big think science. She’s lucky she has tenure–she can speak freely!
Otherwise, her info on sugar and vegetables, eggs, etc…was spot on. thank you.


dude. I flew off the handle & commented during the program & before hearing your closing comments about the pet food industry–you nailed it. hope to hear an expose about “Big Pet” next, sad & scary though that’s gonna be. THANK YOU!


I agree 100% the “Big Pet” is scary for our loved ones.


Excellent show, Greg. Confirmation of the many arms of the same beast. FDA, EPA , Big pharma getting lifelong global customers thanks to the addictive nature of sugary drinks like soda and the American fast food diet. Many new topics to investigate in this episode.


Great advises she gave… BUT (as GC always says) that about baby food is way out, IMHO.
Breast feeding is utterly important and all must be done to make it happen. At least in the first six month.


Baby food and formula is a tough one. There are so many things to consider when it comes to a mother deciding not to breast feed or not being physically able to breast feed. We have to be careful not to “shame” mothers who use formula. They may not be able to produce enough breast milk, and in that situation it’s formula or your baby starving. Some babies also have an allergic reaction to breast milk, etc.


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I was also having the same problem with podcast addict.
Unsubscribe from thc in podcast addict and then go to the about on the THC website and click on help/faq and follow the instructions. Worked for me…good luck!


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Beautiful show, haven’t even finished yet, but I consider the Food dimension to be such an element for Humanity, which is why they’ve worked at lengths over many generations to weaponize it. Having said that though, I do agree that the push to grow your own, in your backyard, your garden and within local communities is awesome, and it’s liberating us from our shackles.
Thanks for another awesome episode, and I hope more people less waste food.


Talk about the magic of intentional thoughts! I was hoping you’d do a show about the food system, as that is my passion, and low and behold you have the great Marion Nestle! ???? She has been the inspiration in my educational and career pursuit for food access, equity, and justice. Thank you so much for having her on, Greg! Wonderful show, as usual. I listened to it on the way to my first day of class on Integrated Food Systems Leadership, solidifying this work as my true life calling. Much gratitude. ????

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I almost spit out my coffee when she starting talking about how she wound up in a Hillary email due to the **Russian hack.** What kind of researcher is she? Former top technical director of the NSA, Bill Binney, proved beyond a doubt that the metadata in the Wikileaks release had too high a bit rate to be an outside hack and had to be a device like a thumb drive connected to the DNC LAN. Probably a leak by the late DNC staff member and Bernie supporter Seth Rich. Minus two stars from me.


Is she from the Nestle family fortune? According to my pastor, when I was a kid in the 70’s hey did very bad things to babies in Africa, something about switching them to formula instead of breast milk which they couldn’t afford and then women couldn’t go back to breastfeeding because their milk dried up from not being used.

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