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Researcher and operator of GnosticMedia.com, Jan Irvin, joins THC to discuss his long history of researching psychedelics, the work of John Allegro into the mushroom-fueled origins of Christianity, and most importantly the vast array of C.I.A. sponsored, false prophets and mind control marketing programs of the counterculture.

According to Jan and the sources he’s found, these false prophets include Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Alan Watts, and many others. You decide!

 

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57 responses to “Jan Irvin | Mind Control, Mushrooms, & Terence McKenna”

  1. Wow. Irvin doesn’t appear to want to discuss anything, let alone explain his positions. Bizarre. Favourite bit? When you started talking about wheat. The ‘sigh’ heard around the world.

     
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  2. Holy shit , talk about a complete 180.I own Sacred Mushroom & The Cross as well as Astrotheology & Shamanism & I found them both to be very difficult reads (I’m probably just stupid) but it kind of seems like Jan maybe working for the CIA.I never heard Rogan do anything but compliment Jan.But regardless , even if all these great minds were somehow CIA or MKultra babies,I don’t understand how promoting love & compassion & knowledge of self is a bad thing.Why would the CIA want to promote rebellion against current social structure. It just appeared like Jan had an agenda.Quite infuriating episode but probably one of the best.I’m sure there will be a ton of reaction.Keep up the great work Greg

     
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  3. Great way to reel that back in and end on a positive Greg. I’ve followed Jan for a couple of years now and this is a pretty typical pattern in interviews. He is so used to ridicule and attack that he is hypersensitive to the slightest criticism (even in the form of a valid question) and goes on the defensive immediately. This coupled with monotonously reciting quotes and facts without regard to context as you attempted to point out (other than, NO! it’s the CIA! Liars!) definitely leads to a challenging conversation. He is a good dude and has done some good things. I don’t think as Shady mentioned the possibility, that he is a disinfo-naut. I just see it as over passionate and reactionary maybe due to the sense of betrayal he kept on about.

    Speaking of which, I listen to Rogan pretty regularly and have yet to hear him really speak ill of Jan, can anybody source that? Jan sure didn’t have a timecode or page number in regards to that particular venom.

    Still a decent listen for the prepared and whether or not the whole psychedelic movement was propaganda or not, it is hard to deny that there has been good done directly as a result of its influence. I hope this doesn’t dissuade you from taking on controversial guests in the future Mr. Carlwood ( here’s another vote for a Stephan Molyneux discussion about resource-based economy ) You held your shit together and came out looking better at the end, sometimes all you can do is let a person vent and let the audience decide if what they have to say is valid. Cheers and keep up the solid work my man.

     
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  4. The Philosophical basis for Feminism is the argument of Dominance. That one group dominates and subjugates the out-of-power group. This argument applies to many instances of power disputes: Palestinians vs Israelis, black teens vs white cops, corrupt governments vs the people

    The In-power group designs the laws/rules so that they remain In-power and that the supremacy could not be challenged.

    Jan takes his anti-Feminism argument in a very weird direction and i’m always skeptical of academics who reference “hunter gatherer society and gender roles”. Look around to the present day asshole. All out the out-groups listed above have it worse than all of the in-power groups and that is injustice.

    Also, Men don’t fear sexual assault by Women, yet Women are aware of sexual assault all the time.

     
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  5. Hahah carl, that end summary you always do; you could definitly tell you were totally bummed out how this interview went the other way , especially since you mentioned at the start to Jan how you were looking forward to talking to him.
    Also , the akward silences from Jans’ side when you asked him about wheat and some of the questions after that: priceless man :p

    And that is what I loved most about this interview; the totally akward vibe after you guys’ got into a bit of conflict. Not every interview goes well and I find it interesting how people save their asses out of that situation. You definitly got out of it really good and professional. Looking forward to the next one man.

     
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  6. Jan was way too aggressive and he just came off as a major asshole. Even if I happen to agree with a number of his points, I don’t agree with his method of talking over you, not letting you get a word in edgewise, or just his general sense of smug superiority. I want to like Jan, I really do. but he’s doing his work a disservice by being such a dominating jerk. (Ad hominem omg!) Great work keeping cool and ending on a positive note man.

     
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    • Totally agree. Even if you think you have ‘the truth’ people are definitely not going to listen when you are aggressive and abrasive… doesn’t matter how hard you yell or attack someone. That method of communication just does not work anymore. Someone needs to mature and come out of caveman times.

       
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  7. Great show, though Mr. Irvin came off a bit defensive and hyper vigilant bordering on rude. He has some important information to share, some difficult facts to swallow, but his general attitude was pretty abrasive.I was shocked when awhile ago when I watched a few of his shows on Gnostic Media. He certainly caused me to question some of the people I held in high regard.
    All in all Greg handled himself with poise and professionalism as this interview could have cascaded into a chaotic shouting match, but did not as he was able to steer the conversation to a new topic.
    Good stuff. Keep it up!

     
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      • Yes, I agree! I would love to buy one of the “Quit Your Job” tees but unsure about fit and fabric. If you could get your hands on modal or viscose and women fit/sizes I would be all over it!

        BTW I agree with ZerOSum… Jan had some interesting points but definitely overly passionate, narrow minded, and defensive. For a man that had to completely rethink his previous opinions you would think he would have learned to keep his mind open to the fact that he may not be 100% right this time either and other than the facts, its only his opinion. Opinions should be a constant work in progress and are completely relative anyways especially the topics you were trying to question and discuss with him and constant refining and evolution of thought should be valued and encouraged. It bothered me how he was trying to tell you how not to be when that was actually exactly how he was acting towards you… ugh :/ either way, great job keeping your cool (better than I would have done), great show (still very interesting), and you are the man! Keep the good stuff comn 😉 and get us girls some modal/viscose tees please <3

         
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  8. WOW. Great job keepin’ it classy when your guest was being pretty rude. That said, the second half was really interesting. As someone who lives a grain and sugar free life style I would love to listen to more shows about health and conspiracy. I’ve been trying to research the topic a bit myself so I’ll let you know if I find anything “meaty”.

     
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  9. Great show Greg. I love a great passionate conversation. Jan had some valid points and serves to be a rather direct person. But you kept the flow going and I enjoyed every minute.

     
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  10. It’s really funny that he doesn’t allow any other point of view or question to come across from you. Him saying “I thought this was an interview???” Well buddy interviews involve questions from the interviewer (if that was even the case).

    Good job keeping your cool though, I would have told him to fuck himself the first time he wouldn’t let me talk.

    Great show, always look forward to the new episodes !

     
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  11. OUCH!!!! That was hard to listen through to the end. Good that you kept it professional while he came off as an asshole, especially the bit about “who’s doing the interview?” What was that all about? He didn’t seem to open to others views, it was his way or the highway with his “research”. Oh well! On to the next one!

     
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  12. Some good information delivered in a rather paranoid combative manner.
    I think it is important to remember that who or what someone actually was, is different to what they may symbolise to someone. We all need heroes and archetypes to navigate this crazy shit storm and we can take it personally if we feel our hope is threatened. Who to trust then hey?
    Psychedelics may have been used as a vector for mind control or cultural manipulation, but that doesn’t reduce the validity of insight or experience an individual can have on them. At the very least it a form of consciousness technology – so the “suggestability” Jan refers to can be harnessed by the user to their own ends. We are not just victims after all.

     
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  13. This guy is a condescending fucking prick who seems like the kind of guy who jerks off into his own mouth for self empowerment. He may have done a lot of research and he may have some valid points in his arguments, but all he seems to want to do is browbeat someone into his way of thinking. I would be much more open to his views if he was able to have a conversation and make valid points eloquently about his opinion. He acts like a dictator. In his opinion, everything he says is right and if you question it in any way, then you’re a moron. He needs a kick in the nuts.

     
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    • Everything this guy said is factual! Jan was a condescending dick. That was a first for me. Well done on keeping your cool and steering the ship back on course. I think its safe to assume Jan may have some problems.

      Lesson I learned : while drugs are fun and enlightening, tripping shrooms a thousand times may be overkill.

       
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      • Yeah, you would have thought he’d learned a thing or two from the evil Mckenna about how to get your message across.

        Honestly if I were Greg this show would have ended about half an hour in. What a condescending prick. I don’t even care if he’s right about anything, he shat all over his supposedly valuable info with his arrogance and attitude towards Greg. Thoroughly impressive show of restraint there, Greg-o-tron.

         
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  14. Wow, I never feel compelled to comment usually but jans comment on socialism equating to feminism is a load of bunk. Has he ever read a single socialist work in his life? Socialist beliefs Of the past century have outright criticized feminism and it’s very existence. Two highly incompatible belief systems. Also McKenna was hardly a socialist. It is a popular thing amongst the conspiracy crowd to equate socialism with nearly everything, and especially the negative, a carry over from the Cold War era conspiracies and belief systems. Also, civil conversation is a must for proper information exchange, something jan finds difficult it seems in the setting of a talk radio show.

     
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  15. Wow! Jan Irvin is an asshole! You did a great job holding things together Greg. I just wish you might have laid into him a little. There’s no excuse for coming on to someone else’s show, acting like it’s your own, treating the host like shit & not answering a single question presented. I’ve never heard of this clown before & am quite glad now that I haven’t.

     
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  16. I feel sorry for this person. If he could only get his very large head out of his ass ? If he could only hear his own words, Maybe he could learn how to talk ? Good job Greg !!! What a Dick !

     
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  17. jan comes off like a dick but he’s absolutely right- that doesnt mean there arent valid thoughts and ideas coming from any of these “agents” that he names- what makes this dangerous is that they mix good ideas was flawed ideas and then you can interpret any of this in any number of ways… i think its important to consider how everything is sold to you and what the end result is. keep up the great work, greg.

     
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  18. Jan was a bit harsh, and you held it together really well. You were right when you said it was 90 percent him and 10 percent you. I did agree with what the things he did say, and we all have the right to our opinions and to change them. I would like to hear him again on the show at a future date. Just because Jan did not have the same conclusions about the facts as you, seemed to irritate him. I did not have the same opinions as you did, but i always respect others for their beliefs and opinions. I do not share your views on drug use, but i really like the show and guests that you have. thank you for having a good show.

     
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  19. Excellent show Greg. Clearly Jan is very passionate about his reasearch and very interesting too. Being a big mushroom user, I feel everyone is different and each experience is different, difficult to group together or generalise. You kept your cool nicely man, and although I came to this show late, I had heard about the fireworks in advance…
    Nothing wrong with a good, heated discussion…
    Love the shows man…

     
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  20. Classic Jan.. was waiting to hear the problem with the interview. But it was just old Jan going on. Didn’t hear the angry part. Thanks Greg it is nice to watch others come to hear the message.

     
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    • I posted that comment half way through. He got better. If I were to extend constructive criticism, I’d recommend that Jan remember that communication is a two way street. He came off very grating and pompous, even in closing.

       
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  21. Has anyone checked out whether this guy’s research into all those ‘names’ being connected with the CIA and MK Ultra is verifiable?
    Having read the 36 previous comments, if it is true no wonder he is a bit short on patience, lol. I mean seriously, if those well known ‘respected’ names are in fact insiders, there is a pretty hefty dosage of discernment pills required by the truth movement.
    Maybe it’s just me but I actually found his frustration quite refreshing, I guess most awakened people acknowledge how close we could be to 24/7 lockdown. If that happens, we can give an affectionate kiss goodbye to this show and the internet (as we know it) in general.
    Listening constantly to smooth tongued conspiricists wallow in the comfort of their ‘disturbing’ research is a bit of an oxymoron in itself, wouldn’t you say?
    I don’t mean to be going against the grain just for the sake of it, but listening from a totally objective perspective, it sounded to me like Greg’s feathers were ruffled when he bawled out McKenna, I mean not totally ruffled, but if your honest it is detectable. Of course Jan coulda been a bit more polite about the whole thing but then we go back to the previous point and he’s running out of patience sw we are running out of time….just saying
    And for the record Greg, you are a great host, but even kane head stoners can get ruffled too 😉

     
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  22. Hi Greg and all,

    This guy Jan Irvin sounds very much like a deep CIA agent.
    His familiarity with past CIA agents (Huxley et al) and his ‘travelling all around the world’ does not compute logically.

    A VERY common tactic amongst deep-state agents is : NEVER allowing someone to speak and NEVER allowing someone to derail the focus of the conversation. (Alex Jones does this relentlessly with his motor-mouth just like Idiot Irvin).

    Quote:

    Irvin states, “They said to me, you know with a mouth like yours we have a place for you in our organization. And I’ve worked in deep background positions the less said about them, the better”.

    And people think this guy is speaking TRUTH ?
    No way, not a chance.
    He is a deep-state intel/co-intel agit prop agent.

    Idiot Irvin puts words into other people’s voices. How can this be regarded as civil discourse ?
    His reluctance to discuss Feminism and Terence McKenna adequately smacks of “guiding the host” away from some topics and only superficially discussing other topics.

    Finally he is just a fracking lying POS.
    Another common tactic amongst deep-state agents is to list out a number of statements and then take them as fact.
    That then creates the framework from which the interview must progress. It is ridiculous.
    Imagine speaking about Terrorism without speaking about False Flag operations !?!
    Insanity !

     
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    • A final word on Deep-State agents:

      Edward Snowden (“snowed-in”) was a CIA employee. This is established fact.
      Why do people think he is still NOT working for the CIA ?
      Look at his behavior thru all of the media attention. Doesn’t add up. Going to Hong Kong (5 star hotel), Russia, Putin’s warning to Snowden.
      Also remember that Edward Snowden did NOT provide any new information. Several ex-intel agents (Binney) have already come forward with far more relevant and actionable whistleblowing.

      No. Edward Snowden is NO whistleblower, he is Controlled Opposition.
      He is a Triple-Agent for the CIA.
      e.g. An Agent for the CIA is someone who is paid by CIA employees to carry out the CIA’s agenda.
      A Double Agent (in this context) is someone who is paid by CIA employees to carry out the CIA’s agenda BUT instead carries out the opposing side’s agenda (Kim Philby Double agent: working for MI6 but actually working for the Soviets).
      A Triple Agent is someone who is paid by CIA employees to carry out the CIA’s agenda but ALSO makes it look like he is working for the other side, yet all the while he continues to work for the CIA.

      Edward Snowden’s true purpose is to threaten the entire World community with the realization that all of the world’s corrupted politicians and corporate chieftains are being spied upon.
      CIA: You better do what we say, or we will blackmail you.

       
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  23. So i didnt like this guy at all, it felt like to me that he gave Joe Rogan his first hit of Dmt and then he got more popular than him and he was upset about this. He always cut you off when you were talking and that is rude and he was just plain boring to me.

     
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  24. OMGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG Jan Irvin snarling about breast feeding: “Newsflash, hippie girl — whaddya think you have tits for?” Major kudos for Greg interjecting “What about the platypus?” when Jan was pontificating about how there are no contradictions in nature. Seriously impressed you held this interview together; Jan is so awful and he had my husband laughing and talking back to his every point. We were literally in hysterics over the tits comment and “What about the platypus?”. Seriously, I’d buy us both a conspiratee with a platypus saying “What about the platypus?”. Thanks for everything about this interview.

     
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  25. Jeez, a very difficult one. I stuck around to listen to his intell. I have similar thoughts on the psychedelic and rock movements. It seems blatantly someone is enforcing the alternative community to “open” the doors of perception, but I just do not buy it yet.
    I grew up believing that rock’n’roll and irrational self expression were the answers. They were my religion. I was so wrong. I know even less now.
    And my hat goes off to the Carlwood. For a moment, I would just go on and say bye to this over emotional guest. Greg managed to continue with the entire 2-hour set.

     
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  26. Maybe Jan wouldn’t get so many ad hominem attacks if he wasn’t a humorless dick.

    Jan is not totally wrong though. He is obviously very structural being enthralled with the rigid formulaic methods of the Trivium, which really are great, but to get stuck on the formula itself and to be so rigid…

    And that is the heart of the matter at hand: structure vs anti-structure. Jan is right that psychedelics and many of the philosophies espoused by Watts, McKenna, et al, are destructive to the old cultures and structures. In that sense they are liberating and I think we can all agree a little personal liberation and sense of connectedness is a good thing. But from the perspective of the controllers, how can this be used? Alternate structure and destruction. Order out of chaos. Perpetually tear down and rebuild in alternating fashion. Promote things that blow people’s minds for a period of time, and then make these illegal and suppressed as you bring in the new structures. Keep the pendulum swinging.

    Maybe these guys were recruited by the CIA to start the deconstruction phase but I really think they believed what the were preaching and were not merely disingenuous salesmen for an ideology they didn’t believe in.

    What is good for personal liberation is not good for large organized structures and hierarchies and institutions. Going tribal is good for the soul, but look what the hierarchical western world did to the tribes.

    So it’s a trade off: turn people off to ego and materialism and their souls cannot be conquered as easily but their populations can fall prey to military conquest or new narratives of mind control. Turn the people on to structure and hierarchy and materialism and build a ruthless conquering force.

    What is the solution? I don’t know but my suggestion is promote the liberating policies and philosophies while putting very stringent limits on the size and longevity and powers of all human hierarchical organizations whether they be governments or corporations or religions.

     
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  27. Damn. Fantastic show. I’ve heard the quote from McKenna before. “Honest work…” obviously a joke. But working in “deep background” and “public relations”, I’m still not sure how to interpret it—McKenna’s delivery does sound like an admission of sorts. But I don’t think that means that everything McKenna said is bogus. Perhaps I’m brainwashed.

    The statements regarding Solipsism, the Trivium, Fallacies, and Nature being contradiction-free trapped him in a bit of a fallacy himself, however. Solipsism was created by the Gorgias, the Sophist—pre-socratic/socratic-contemporary philosophers who informed “Aristotelian logic” and created “Classical Rhetoric”—and later explored and elaborated further by Descartes—pretty much the biggest rationalist in the book—so discrediting Solipsism as some kind of woo to subvert critical thought isn’t entirely logical. Plus, his appeal to nature is a fallacy, one that I’ve always interpreted as a kind of appeal to authority. Cosmic authority, but authority. This fallacy was echoed somewhat in his views on Feminism. I wish Greg would’ve dropped something about colonialism and how much more savage the pursuit of resources was in the past, how the patriarchally constructed society is in it’s own way a kind of materialism, how consumer society does have a historical precedent but we just experience it differently due to mass media and tighter proximity due to greater population. I don’t want to attack him, but his social views were a bit conservative, a bit authoritarian. Another commenter said structuralist. When it got to Kennedy the facts became a bit iffy.

    That being said… he did have some good points. The diet stuff was fantastic and, if nothing else, it’s important to remember that every person or piece of media you speak to/interact with does have an intention for you and as such it’s important to logically and dispassionately sort out which ideas are your own and which have been put there. 70/30, I guess.

     
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  28. This guy is so co-opted, it’s nuts.

    Painful to listen to him discredit every person who’s worked so hard to explore, discover and promote for enlightenment.

    Either he has major delusions of persecution or he’s been blackmailed by the security state to wreak havoc… and he takes to the task like a fish in water… on steroids.

     
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  29. I thought this was a great interview. Jan is abrasive but he is also right. Pretty hard to accept one’s paradigm might be flawed. I have downloaded and saved a bunch of Irwin’s interviews including the Gene Denning shows on the Trivium. I had a personal interaction with Graham Hancock about Jan and I was blown away by the raw emotion in his dislike for him. I thought his information on wheat was a bit over the top but it obviously changed his life. I thought his arguments for Mckenna and Leary and that bunch were pretty persuasive. However, being aware is being forearmed. I like your show enough to pay for it, but he found your weak spot. I will continue listening with a new perspective.

     
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  30. Glad I went into the archives for this 1.
    Have to commend Greg on how well he handled himself during the disagreement. I do however understand how people act the way Jan did. Almost everyone that listens to THC can identify with losing their head due to the frustration of a lifetime of being lied to and manipulated. Not to mention what goes with having ones intuitive strengths and even researched facts dismissed because they are not part of the agreed upon propaganda. That said… It is crucial we don’t destroy our credibility in the moments our emotions to get the best of us. On that note Greg… You are a champion of the cause!!! Hopefully Mr Irvin was reminded in that way. Let’s not forget there are snares, snags and just a whole lot of good old fashioned entrapment for those in search of the truth. So I respectfully say lets not make it any more difficult than it already is. As for the subject matter… Raised in a family led by a true matriarch, I have the highest respect for women and the feminine characteristics that balance our existence. I have to admit that I believe its possible Jan has more than just a point when it comes to the movements we have seen in our culture in reference to propaganda. After all our nation’s capital is not the district of Columbus. It’s The district of Columbia. The statue of liberty represents us as a people and that’s no man. There is definitely a rabbit hole worth exploring for those inclined. It would NOT be new within power structure that one group would claim victim status to attain or maintain power over those they manipulate or even victimize. Screaming for help whilst assaulting someone else. It’s an old trick and I believe in my gut that this game is at the root of almost all the conspiracy that has us intrenched. We all know the people we are publicly taught hold power are only mouthpeices and puppets for those who really hold the power. The truly powerful are not in the public eye. If evil men ran everything wouldn’t they have women holding publicly recognized positions of power as their scapegoats? What if we are witnessing the opposite? Us big dumb guys making a mess of everything. Induce the feeling of emasculation, throw in some conflict and you have full on overcompensation. We all know that a meathead trying to prove his grit surely doesn’t feel very masculine. He’s only out to gain what he feels has been stolen. An army can be coaxed by the same things as an individual as long as a consensus exists (whether based on truth or not). We are a nation that takes pride in our muscle and willingness to use it. Odd for a country represented by LADY Liberty!? Could it be we have been brought to a masculinity crisis on purpose? Look at the men portrayed on television. On one side the incompetent dad shamed and clowned by the family for his ineptitude.On the other side a gun wielding tough guy that kills or beats the crap out of anyone who he’s at odds with him. Porn!? The males are abusive and lack all intuition. Boxing isnt violent enough so we have taken to “ground and pound”. Essentaially the only expression of masculinity we see is imbalanced and excessive or brainless. Not a whole lot of good outlets for masculinity. Men that have a conscience are often afraid or ashamed of exhibiting masculinity because it has become linked to only sadism. Which should have no correlation. The only men willing to express it tend do it like cave men because it is only a detached individual that would be unaffected by the hype. So essentially it becomes difficult for balanced men with solid leadership qualities to express themselves at all. As we have seen in the past. No better way to build an army than to frustrate to no end.

    Now nutrition!!!
    He didn’t mention the BIG Obvious….
    INSULIN= INDUCED COMA
    Our pancreas produces insulin when our blood sugar goes up too fast to bring it down. When it is not producing insulin it is doing it’s CRUCIAL job of sending out killer cells to attack invaders and eliminate mutating cells ie: cancer.
    So as its busy producing insulin it’s not doing what it’s vital job.
    Insulin was used in the first half of the 1900s to medicate schizophrenia! Induced coma! That’s right…Heres your insulin shot and here’s your straight jacket. The menu at fast food chains is created to stimulate insulin production…”food coma”. Flour sticks to the colon trickles sugar into The bloodstream forcing excessive and steady insulin prduction= fatigue and mental fog, lowered immunity. Gluten also nourishes fungus and parasitic growth in the body far more readily than it nourishes the body itself. Neither fungus or off strains of bacteria are easily detected within the construct of our medical system. As it is designed these things are not in the radar. Hmmm? How do you think that affects our capacity to respond and react as citizens? Health/health care? Maybe its time in the rabbit hole that has bugs bunny saying what’s up doc!?
    A little something to think about maybe!?
    Thanks THC!!!

     
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  31. Glad I went into the archives for this 1.
    Have to commend Greg on how well he handled himself during the disagreement. I do however understand how people act the way Jan did. Almost everyone that listens to THC can identify with losing their head due to the frustration of a lifetime of being lied to and manipulated. Not to mention what goes with having ones intuitive strengths and even researched facts dismissed because they are not part of the agreed upon propaganda. That said… It is crucial we don’t destroy our credibility in the moments our emotions to get the best of us. On that note Greg… You are a champion of the cause!!! Hopefully Mr Irvin was reminded in that way. Let’s not forget there are snares, snags and just a whole lot of good old fashioned entrapment for those in search of the truth. So I respectfully say lets not make it any more difficult than it already is. As for the subject matter… Raised in a family led by a true matriarch, I have the highest respect for women and the feminine characteristics that balance our existence. That said… I have to admit that I believe its possible Jan has more than just a point when it comes to the movements we have seen in our culture in reference to propaganda. After all our nation’s capital is not the district of Columbus. It’s The district of Columbia. The statue of liberty represents us as a people and that’s no man. There is definitely a rabbit hole worth exploring for those inclined. It would NOT be new within power structure that one group would claim victim status to attain or maintain power over those they manipulate or even victimize. Screaming for help whilst assaulting someone else. It’s an old trick and I believe in my gut that this game is at the root of almost all the conspiracy that has us intrenched. We all know the people we are publicly taught hold power are only mouthpeices and puppets for those who really hold the power. The truly powerful are not in the public eye. If evil men ran everything wouldn’t they have women holding publicly recognized positions of power as their scapegoats? What if we are witnessing the opposite? Us big dumb guys making a mess of everything. Induce the feeling of emasculation, throw in some conflict and you have full on overcompensation. We all know that a meathead trying to prove his grit surely doesn’t feel very masculine. He’s only out to gain what he feels has been stolen. An army can be coaxed by the same things as an individual as long as a consensus exists (whether based on truth or not). We are a nation that takes pride in our muscle and willingness to use it. Odd for a country represented by LADY Liberty!? Could it be we have been brought to a masculinity crisis on purpose? Look at the men portrayed on television. On one side the incompetent dad shamed and clowned by the family for his ineptitude.On the other side a gun wielding tough guy that kills or beats the crap out of anyone who he’s at odds with. Porn!? The males are abusive and lack all intuition. Boxing isnt violent enough so we have taken to “ground and pound”. Essentaially the only expression of masculinity we see is imbalanced and excessive or brainless. Not a whole lot of good outlets for masculinity. Men that have a conscience are often afraid or ashamed of exhibiting masculinity because it has become linked to only sadism. Which should have no correlation. The only men willing to express it tend do it like cave men because it is only a detached individual that would be unaffected by the hype. So essentially it becomes difficult for balanced men with solid leadership qualities to express themselves at all. As we have seen in the past. No better way to build an army than to frustrate to no end.

    Now nutrition!!!
    He didn’t mention the BIG Obvious….
    INSULIN= INDUCED COMA
    Our pancreas produces insulin when our blood sugar goes up too fast to bring it down. When it is not producing insulin it is doing it’s CRUCIAL job of sending out killer cells to attack invaders and eliminate mutating cells ie: cancer.
    So as its busy producing insulin it’s not doing what it’s vital job.
    Insulin was used in the first half of the 1900s to medicate schizophrenia! Induced coma! That’s right…Heres your insulin shot and here’s your straight jacket. The menu at fast food chains is created to stimulate insulin production…”food coma”. Flour sticks to the colon trickles sugar into The bloodstream forcing excessive and steady insulin prduction= fatigue and mental fog, lowered immunity. Gluten also nourishes fungus and parasitic growth in the body far more readily than it nourishes the body itself. Neither fungus or off strains of bacteria are easily detected within the construct of our medical system. As it is designed these things are not in the radar. Hmmm? How do you think that affects our capacity to respond and react as citizens? Health/health care? Maybe its time in the rabbit hole that has bugs bunny saying what’s up doc!?
    A little something to think about maybe!?
    Thanks THC!!!

     
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  32. haha wow that got a bit crazy!!

    I actually nodded off.. then woke up .. wondering what the hecks goin on here?? lol.. quick rewind!!
    Very entertaining and great save by both of you.

    I just loved how it went from defcon 1 to… so tell me about wheat? …long pause haha that was great

     
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