Clive de Carle | Big Pharma, Natural Cures, & The Sickness Conspiracy

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Join The Higherside Chats podcast as host, Greg Carlwood, talks Big Pharma, Natural Cures, and The Sickness Conspiracy with guest, Clive de Carle.

With nutrient deficient food, toxic chemicals sprayed in our atmosphere, a tainted water supply, and the mainstream medical establishment flooding our system with prescription drugs- the quest for a symbiotic relationship between us and our environment seems more daunting as the days pass. Surviving in a system aimed at keeping us weak, malnourished, and insufficiently fueled, requires a commitment to our health and environment that has been lost throughout the last 100 years of industrialization. As companies like Monsanto and DuPont continue destroy our food supply and leave our oceans polluted, we slave away at our jobs, only to return home and fill ourselves with poisonous provisions.
Fortunately, today’s guest, Clive de Carle, joins The Higherside to help us better understand the ways we can escape our incredibly flawed system. As he puts it, “A patient healed is a customer lost”, and today’s show aims to flip the script on the mainstream medical system and re-instate our individual dominion over our health and well-being.
2:30 With many of us in agreement that the food supply has severely damaged our health, it stands to reason that education is the key ingredient to creating lasting change through a complete overhaul of our current system. Clive begins by detailing his own harrowing journey from outright incapacitation to perfect health, the total incompetence he experienced with doctors in the medical field, and the lifestyle changes he underwent to completely turnaround his own health. Greg and Clive also discuss the three culprits de Carle attributes to ailing health: toxicity, physical damage, and mineral deficiency. Clive also explains the importance and value of Magnesium.
11:00 Another powerful mineral that is totally overlooked by many in the mainstream medical establishment is Vitamin C. Clive explains how since the 1960s, studies have shown Vitamin C can effectively overcome viruses such as cold and flu, but unfortunately most of today’s Vitamin C is sourced from GMO corn, rendering it useless and ineffective.
18:00 Continuing with their discussion, Greg and Clive cover other known cases of parents reversing autism and Asperger’s through changes in diet, and they also dive into the other end of the spectrum of miraculous recoveries of Alzheimer’s patients. Greg and Clive also cover toxins in the water supply such Aluminum and Fluoride, how they displace Iodine, an important mineral, and ultimately disrupt our systems.
28:00 Considering that most modern-day medical issues have sprung up of the course of the last 100 years, and depending on the school of though you prescribe to, opinions regarding the progress made in our overall health and well being differ greatly. While there is no denying that the introduction of chemicals into our water, a nutrient deficient food supply and the pharmaceutical industry have certainly caused more harm than good, Clive breaks down the nuances and complexities involved in understanding the bigger picture.
36:30 Greg and Clive continue to break down the damage done during the birthing process to both mother and child. As de Carle explains, even the language used by doctors has a negative hypnotic effect.
42:00 Clive elaborates on the idea that infants have five sounds that they make when born, and each one signifies something different. These can range from one that indicates they are hungry, tired, or sleepy, to crying because they have air trapped or defecated. Clive details the work of Priscilla Dunstan.
51:00 Although the natural components such as proper vitamin and mineral amounts are important pieces to the health puzzle, Clive elaborates on some of the cutting edge technologies that are making a positive impact on our health and well-being, from VIOME testing and predictive bio-markers to delayed allergy testing and Dr. William Walsh’s biochemistry to heal the brain.
Become a Plus Member at to hear a second hour of all THC episodes. This week’s included:
– dairy: pasteurized and raw
– Keifer and the power of fermentation
– untold truths about antibiotics
– the Alex Jones anecdote
– taking care of your teeth
– who’s to blame for these issues?
– updates on GC Maf and Clive’s involvement with David Nokes
– natural doctors being knocked off
– more lessons Clive learned from his farming project
– spouting organic seeds right in your apartment
– Clive’s radical revelation about the moon
– strange stories from Clive’s childhood
A few valuable resources from the interview:
– Vitamin C researcher & Noble Prize Winner Linus Pauling Institute:
– “Reverse Pneumonia in 3 Hours” on Youtube:
– Kerri Rivera’s “Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism”:
– Clive de Carle interviews Kerri Rivera:
– Priscilla Dunstan’s “Dunstan Baby Language”:
– Priscilla Dunstan on Oprah:
– Dr. William Walsh’s “Walsh Research Institute”:
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26 Responses

  1. Wow what an incredible episode. Clive was just full of great knowledge and he’s such a good speaker. Greg’s questions and comment were on point as always. 10/10 would listen again.

  2. Well, he just bailed on the type 1 diabetes topic! I would have loved to have heard more. If there’s a way to heal my daughter, I’d be willing to sell my soul. I strongly believe that there’s a conspiracy here. I knew no-one with this growing up and now all kinds of kids are diabetic. UAB found a cure in mice a few years ago. It was a cholesterol medicine and it completely reversed type 1and2 in the mice.
    Surprise Surprise, I haven’t heard anything else about it. No-one in my family or her mom’s dude have type 1. She also had NONE of the symptoms! I still can’t wrap my head around it 4 years later.

  3. Brilliant month good old THC+. Great show -took notes! Taking apple cider vinegar for coughs and sore throats, trying restore for leaky gut – very expensive to import to UK – improving skin so far, propolis and lysine for cold sores-propolis also supposed to be protective for phone microwaves. Taking care and taking responsibility – going to try vit c magnesium and iodine – younger every month! hahaha xxx

    1. #metoo Plus, after the Dana Cohen, Pollack and Cancer Conspiracy episodes I now use Bicarbonate Soda daily with confirmed effect whilst in hospital with a broken foot. Oxygen level in blood between 96-100% when measured. Also, leave water in glass bottles daily in window for the sun charge, drink a pint w/pinch of salt and/or bicarbonate soda and apple c.v. first thing in the morning, chia seeds in water overnight for the EZ water and spinach & anything Ive got handy in smoothies whenever I can. Noticed the stress evaporating after starting with magnesium. Plus Vit D as live in Norway. In other words, Cheers Greg! Keep up the good work! Hope you use all the advice yourself ,-) (Quick tip, 1 glass of water after every other beer etc. keeps the headache away. Particularly handy if one needs to live-stream) Oh, and its flat. Really is. Lev Vel 🙂

    1. And? I don’t find that alarming nor excessive – the guy has to make a living and clearly knows his stuff. Just because you have to hand him $$$ and yet your doctor works for “free” (yeah right) …

  4. Excellent show! I had to figure out on my own about magnesium and iodine. If I don’t take magnrsium every day, I get leg cramps at night and migraines. And yes, if you take to much you will get a laxative effect. That’s why Milk of Magnesia is a laxative 🙂
    I started taking iodine when I self – diagnosed as low thyroid function. I was always cold even when others were sweating. Cold to the touch and cold inside. My body temp didn’t get above 97 degrees. I was getting migraines more frequently and I was constantly tired to the point that if I sat down, I was falling asleep. After research, I bought some iodine (iodoral specifically) and I immediately warmed up and the other symptoms went away, and I’ve been feeling normal ever since.
    Look up the connection between iodine and apoptosis.
    I also try to take vitamin c everyday, but I often forget. And I started taking vitamin D3 recently as well. I’m going to look into the vitamin C he was recommending.

  5. I enjoy almost all the shows, normally the weird and wonderful ones the most, but this is definitely one of the best I’ve listened to on THC.

    I got to the end and now I’m looking into vitamin c powders for me and my family.

  6. Like it a lot. There was a few topics I feel he skipped around but bravo bravo.

    I was very sick 3 years ago. I was obese, in constant pain and not ‘aging well’ (to avoid descriptions). I was barely in my thirties and in a terrible marriage one that was actually poisoning me (how about that for toxic relationships!)

    As this marriage collapsed I was able to take control of myself and diet (poverty does govern food source here in the UK).
    Within 3 months I had from from a 43 something waist to 34inch waste (I’m now around 30). Pain stopped and a revelation that was boarder line spiritual. What I do? Cut out all supermarket, went to a local market and got oraganic when ever possible. Cut out wheat/ dairy/ yeast/ sugars and all processed food. Had a shot of cider vinger daily plus drunk lemons and ginger (stopped this for a few months and got sick for the first time!).

    This isnt meant to be a rant nor a “look at me” post but when one actually discovers how terrible the food we eat is. Yes we all know its bad but when your life gets actually turned around you really get a sense of the NWO!!

    I’m hesitant to mention the Vgn word as I will get booed but honestly. I cut out meat for one month with the goal of eating a well maintain/reared animal. After one month I was put off for life. We are in a system that is programmed to attack people that don’t eat meat. Even when the irony is humans are not meant to eat this way. I’m not preaching here.

    Seriously want to stop this insanity, its really simple its almost comical, avoid their core systems – meat and dairy. Shop local, shop clean and build a community, don’t go to the doctors, don’t get vaccinated, check into your health allll the time & stop buying from Amazon! We would disable big pharma, corrupt sciences, help save the planet (from slavery to deforestation) and with healthy beating hearts! (if you want to eat meat – find a real farmer)

    In the few years I have done this I have seen lots of others follow. Interesting how CIA now owns Whole foods. The clientel (here in UK anyway) has changed. Also the attacks on Vegans is insane and increasing. Yet I’m seeing more and more shops open up.

    Checkout Mic the vegan, he has bitesize chats on topics to clean yourself and challenges the VOX’s and crappy reports.
    Dont want to post as everyone hates a vegan!!

    Peace and love out!

  7. This was a great episode that I definitely will have to give a second listen to. With my son having autism, this sub topic was of great interest. Watching his youtube interview with Kerri Rivera… It seems she has been labelled quite the quack from many different sources, specifically about her use of Chlorine Dioxide as a treatment for autistic children. Most people equate it to feeding your child bleach. It’s very hard to sort out quacks from real professionals.

    1. Yes – and just like with Iodine “they” have thrown their hands up in horror and screamed “you want to give iodine to people, that’s lethal!” when it is always perfectly clearly that you take dilute iodine – and even then titrated – we take 3 x drops lugol’s twice a day in a glass of water. It soudns like teh same with the CH, a harmless but effective solution that brings about healing and idiots jump on the bandwagon and call quackery. Imagine most people here are familiar with it but either Sheldrake’s The Science Delusion or Hancock’s The War on Consciousness are great (so-called “banned”) TED talks…

  8. I will second Clive’s rec on growing sprouts. Very easy to produce. And I get a great feeling from having brought seed to life and consuming it. Also a great way to get your feet wet on growing other things like micro-greens, herbs, etc. Self/small group sufficiency should be a goal we are all working towards.

  9. Loved this podcast and Clive is a minefield of information 😉 My wife has had thyroid issues so much of this validated what we have learned already this year. What I would say is (and I’m confirming exactly what clive said happens to make people become evangelical!) – we have been doing ketogenic way of eating for 4 months now and it is utterly amazing, it’s a magic trick and the benefits are manifold and the downsides, frankly, trivial and irrelevant. Check out the science behind it – and, more so, the case against sugar which is poison, see Gary Taubes and John Yudkin for more, compelling info and you will never want to touch sugar again (and you do NOT need to). Mark

  10. I was also taken with the stuff about hyperthermic treatments for cancer – after some googling I found this – – which is very clearly articulated and she tried virtually every therapy I have ever heard of. That perhaps mollified my enthusiasm as clearly there is no magic cure that works for all but as she says you have to be responsible for your own healing…

  11. I now take Magnesium Glycinate and Magnesium Chloride, it’s changed my life! I’m so thankful! I can RELAX! All these years…. I was just missing the quality Mag! Thank You a Million Times!!!!!

  12. Great episode with a lot of low-cost, practical suggestions. I went and got some magnesium, and will be experimenting with that. Looking into sprouting and natural vitamin C as well. Really cool of you, Greg, to have people like this on. Love it!

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