Phoenix Aurelius Interview on Spagyrics Alchemy on The Higherside Chats Podcast

Phoenix Aurelius | Spagyrics, Practical Alchemy, & Broken Beer

Show Notes


Today’s guest, Phoenix Aurelius, is a self-taught Spagyrist who has been practicing and teaching the Alchemical Arts & Sciences since 2005. One of his highest stated goals is reconstructing Spagyric Theory, Philosophy, Practice, & Pharmacopoeia for the 21st Century.

He runs the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy, which offers courses, materials, and his handmade tinctures.Β  All can be found @



PLUS Content

  • How alchemical principles apply to the human body and the life of a person.
  • Alchemical applications to permaculture, gardening, and biodynamic agriculture.
  • Astrological cycles, our times, and plague.

40 Responses

  1. Listened to Phoenix on Crrow several months back and have been ordering product from him ever since. We love it. Great interview. We will continue to support Phoenix and his research. Thanks 

  2. Awesome, I've recently started studying spagyrics. I already make plant medicines (mainly medical cannabis oil to gift to friends who need it) but this is a whole new world to me! Really looking forward to listening to this as I do the rounds at the sanctuary πŸ˜€ I think it's so important now (for me, anyway) to focus on not playing the game that's going on round about us and put my energy and thoughts into the reality I want, which is to be as human as I can, help folk, be aw the parts of being human that they make us think aren't real. Fuck em, they're crazy bastards, I'm creating my own reality πŸ˜€ Thanks as always, The Carlwood! 

  3. Dear Greg, I fucking love you, thank you for all your hard, professional work.  Phoenix was a fantastic guest and I am definitely going to check out his stuff.  Your show is a bastion of hope and sanity during this very lonely feeling time in my so-called progressive liberal town. You have my $8 a month as long as they let me have a credit card!

  4. This warrants multiple listens. I've been tempted to buy some labware to give the basic techniques a try, but basically clueless as to where to buy, but this show has bumped my interest. I do hope you can get Phoenix back on for a Part II, sooner than later. As a man lucky enough to have worked in botanic gardens and now have a large garden of my own with trees I've grown from seed and wild collected, organic veg garden, fruit trees and shrubs, herbs and ornamental plants, I would love to be able to engage with it all on a deeper level than just looking or stuffing in my gob. 


    Looking forward to the next one!

  5. Excellent interview and guest.

    A few thoughts come to mind…

    1.  Curious as to the potential ethical implications of the types of alchemy talked about in the first hour.

    If plants, say, have a spirit and soul, (and they are potentially sentient in some way), is it harmful to them to extract these "essences" from them, for our own benefit?

    If we apply the same type of activities toward ourselves, we might call it vampirism, or soul stealing, etc.

    Perhaps we might claim to be "higher up" in some sort of hierarchy of life, which gives us free reign over the plants.

    But obviously,  any entity who is taking advantage of *us* in a similar way, could simply make the same claim.

    Would we agree?

    I doubt it.


    2.  The description of these substances being ingested and thus permanently altering the hosts personality and mind is strikingly similar to accounts of possession.

    I've often wondered if simply ingesting alcohol (spirits), is temporarily opening oneself up to being possessed by the essence of the whatever the base is of the alcoholic beverage. 


    3.  Did Phoenix cryptically suggest that alchemy is done on humans?

    I dont mean given to humans, but that human bodies are used to create alchemical substances?

    I wish Greg had followed up on that,  as it sounded very creepy.

  6. Clean life up! Great info! So glad I’m hereπŸ™ŒπŸ»πŸ™ŒπŸ»πŸ™ŒπŸ»πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ’—πŸ’šπŸ’—πŸŒˆπŸŒˆπŸ’—πŸ’š

  7. Whoa that was so bloody good exceptional … thank you πŸ™ πŸ‘πŸ˜²πŸ˜Ž 

    yeah look after yourself the Negative has to go  πŸ˜ŽπŸ˜Š BIG LOVE 

    1. Awesome sync for me to read this; just listened to the Crrow episode so listening to this now, and also just started shilajit this month and have had great results, haven’t needed more than two days off from working out this month. Big fan of Maca, ashwaghanda, lions mane, cordyceps, and raw beets daily. 

  8. Greg you're awesome – love the podcast been listening for a while now, and I was extra stoked on this episode. Bonus points to hear that this guy was a skateboarder, as I am also a skateboard and dedicate a big part of my life to action sports.

  9. Hey man for What it’s worth you are a great host and poopoo to any nay sayers. And you certainly have the right to separate yourself, unwarranted advice is really tacky and the absolute worst in any area. It’s rude in the real world, and that’s my 2 cents anyway. Thanks for a super interesting show. Don’t let the trolls occupy another minute of your head space.  F those guys.πŸ˜‰πŸ‘πŸ˜Ž

  10. Wow! What an opening to a whole new world for me (I had never heard of Spagyrics before). Thank you Greg and Phoenix!


    100% agree with getting rid of comments on YouTube. You need to focus on your game. You don't need to listen to other people's negative sh!t.


    Keep up the awesome work Greg! 

  11. Greg don’t be hard on your self about discipline, you’ve got discipline where it counts in areas such as ethics and personal accountability, and you’ve had enough to create this amazing outlet to get out so many voices and keep it entertaining and manifest something real. Sometimes people we consider “disciplined” such as in areas like diet, exercise, or work ethic often become too cut throat or project those expectations on others and become unbearable. Enjoy your drinks and smoke!

  12. Absolutely fantastic show! Love this guest. I would love to see him return. I am glad I was able to renew my plus membership for it. Best few bucks I ever spent is on this podcast. Keep bringing light to the darkness Greg. Love you brother and your work.

  13. Been a plus member for awhile and I didn’t even know you were getting hate on YouTube. Good on you for removing comments and remember many of the trolls are actually bots just trying to tear down what you’ve built. The powers that be don’t want the truth out there. Great episode as always!

  14. Love love love… thank you Greg!  Much appreciated Phoenix!  So many dots have been connected with this show… I'm definitely going to check out



  15. Excellent show. This requires a double if not triple listen. I very much was interested in the part about the alchemy of tears as a starting point. Hard for me to cry knowing that it’s even cathartic but maybe I can give it another try. Thanks Greg keep up the great awesome work.

  16. Holy cannoli Batman! That was the shit. Everything in this episode was directly relevant to me and where I am in my personal and spiritual development. I’m so thankful for this information and the introduction to Phoenix, thank you very much! πŸŒΏπŸ’œ

    Also, loved your vibe in the wrap up Greg

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