Ellen Brown | Bankster Thugs, The Web of Debt, & The Public Banking Solution

Show Notes


Ellen Brown is the founder of the Public Banking Institute and the author of a dozen books and hundreds of articles. She developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In the best-selling Web of Debt, she turned those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve and “the money trust.” She showed how this private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back.
In The Public Bank Solution, the 2013 sequel, she traces the evolution of two banking models that have competed historically, public and private; and explores contemporary public banking systems globally.

Today she joins THC to discuss the findings in both of those books,  the immoral actions of the bankster elite, and educate us on alternative systems.

In the Plus show, we also talk about Ellen’s book Forbidden Medicine, and what she learned from watching Big Pharma cross boarders to shut down alternative cancer treatments. We also discuss the idea of the guaranteed  income and how it works, and examples of it being used in the past.

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12 Responses

  1. Congratulations on another excellent show, Greg. I’ve long found Ellen’s insights into the financial system informative and helpful in trying to make sense of all of the jargon and and magicians’ slights of hand. All you need to do now is interview Catherine Austin Fitts to hava a trilogy of great women, the other being Jen, who are not only providing us with insights, but practical answers to the mess we’re all in.

    I thoroughly applaud your epilogue to this interview. We should not fall into the trap of treating the symptoms of l manipulation by the corporate and military elites as the root cause. That’s just falling into the same old trap again. All around the world, indigenous cultures and traditional ways of life are being engulfed in the morass bland monocultural globalisation. Let’s respect each other, understand and enjoy what makes us different. as much as what we all share in common. I’m proud to proclaim my identity as a Celt and indigenous Briton, which has nothing to do with the current nation state of Great Britain. Strangely enough, through doing this, I find I have more in common with the Quechua, Aymara and other native peoples I come across in South America, than I would if I simply thought of myself as “Western”, “European,” or “White.” We have the power to shape our own identities, so why not look to our own roots to do so, rather than tp the identities that the globalists like to foist on us?

  2. Thanks man! Glad you liked the end. That was pretty important to me, but I almost didn’t say anything. It felt important though. Happy to hear I’m not alone there!

    1. Once again you gave an inspired epilogue, the other being the Ferguson one whcih had a brief backlash then led to more members so BRAVO and Well Said. That insight is terrific and I never realised how true til I heard your view. Thanks

    2. Perhaps the mark of a good interviewer is knowing when to say nothing, or next to nothing. Ellen is so knowledgeable that I suppose it’s really about putting her at her ease and letting her talk. It was good that she felt she could speak about alternative medicine too.

  3. I thought the interview and the wrap-up were great. Ellen Brown’s one of my favorite commentators on banking and money. I’ll riff on a point you made during the interview that I’ve been dwelling on for a while.

    Today, it’s getting more common for people to take 7 or 8 year loans on new cars. I also know some people who went bankrupt and now have brand new cars, too. In some cases, this is a good decision for people. However, I guess for most car buyers, it’s a bad deal. Over the life of the loan, a buyer ends up paying a lot more in interest, and ends up owing money on what becomes an old POS beater. This is just one example of how wealth is drained from normal people to parasites and rentiers.

    There are lots of alternatives to this one system, but they’re not common knowledge. I never had an education in being cheap when I was growing up. In fact, I’m guessing, like most people, I had the opposite education from TV or movies. My parents had also been pretty brainwashed to live a faux luxury lifestyle on credit.

    The financial crisis finally woke me up to how I was being sucked dry–it made me cheap, or at least made me more thoughtful about what I spend my money and life energy on.

    I currently look to the amish as a real alternative to our contemporary consumer culture. They simply reject the brainwashing and appear to live pretty intentionally–making choices about all the details in their lives to live what they consider a good way. Many of the guests you’ve had on–the seed commune people, and Wendy Tremayne are two I can think of off the top of my head–who made choices to live outside the consumer culture.

    I think even without making a totally radical break with the mainstream, a person can make choices that get them mostly out of the matrix. I’ve been working toward this for a couple of years. I still have a normal corporate job, but I’m slowly and steadily shaping my life so I can make that break.

  4. Hey, Greg! Love your work! Such a breath of very fresh air. Sweet and wide range of topics. I’m a subscriber, but I can’t seem to listen to your shows anymore! I’ve double-checked everything on my end pertaining to volume and sound, and your show seems to be the only one I can’t get an audio for. Any ideas! Thanks!

    1. Very odd indeed. Sorry for the trouble. You seem to be able to log in okay…are you getting any errors or do the showa appear to be playing but without any volume? I don’t think anyone else is having this problem?

    2. Hopefully this has been resolved for you, if not, some things to try: A different browser, just for basic steps of troubleshooting. You may very well have some security settings in place from an antivirus program of some kind that is trying too hard to do a good job, blocking the needed elements from running so you can get sound. May want to try and temporarily disable whatever you are running to see what happens, if that works, now you know where the problem is coming from. You may have to then make some sort of exception in a firewall? or whatever is in place that is interfering. Hope that helps.

  5. Have to agree with the comments about the last two shows being a great balance and also important ideas to at least give some thought to. Seen some people on YT running the show down because of the last two, whatever man, THC continues to kick a$$ all day.

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