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This goes with Eric dollard, Walt Thornhill, and Dean Delucua. This makes makes it incredibly possible for there to be a polar opening in the water, and adds a checkmark to the electric universe. About 7 minutes long. http://youtu.be/_pauQitNEM0

 
Posted : October 14, 2016 6:23 PM
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While diamagnetism is a property of water, it does not follow that diamagnetism is the cause of the tides. In addition, none of the people you mention have ever discussed a flat Earth.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 12:19 AM
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Yes but I wasn't using this as a proof of a flat earth. Think what you want to on that. I have no opinion. What would you prescribe as to the cause of tides. A mass sucking other masses due to its own mass which isn't understood or proven. I'm saying. Magnetism/electricity causes tides. I won't buy it "cause you said so". Here's a case awaiting an authentic counter to what you witnessed. I supplied a possibility. Also
Polar opening? Comment?

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 1:25 AM
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If you are saying magnetism/electricity causes tides then I would say I agree in a roundabout way (explained below). The video link you posted shows diamagnetism in water then starts to discuss tidal cycles, and theoriezed tracts for the orbits of the sun and moon about a discoid (flat) earth. I was left to ponder the effect of diamagnetism on tides and a flat earth model with tides being the result of repulsion rather than attraction. It is not unreasonable I would find that a plug for a particular viewpoint in light of your posting the video.

With regard to gravity I do believe in gravity, albeit a more dynamic form than in conventional theory as it is based on the flow of ether through a mass. It does fit in with magnetism/electricity being the ultimate cause as the atoms comprising matter are micro-electromagnetic dynamos of ether flow causing a small ether drift toward all masses which accumulates in larger masses.

With regard to a polar opening it's definitley possible they exist or have existed (I have heard they might be blocked off today - this would preclude a smaller opening than most of the accounts though), I don't have definitive evidence but I would lean toward the possibility of a polar opening based on there being several accounts from early polar exporers of having ventured into more temperate lands with accompanying compass anomalies (dipping of the needle) and a different look to the sun after venturing into the interior of the polar opening. The fact that both poles have such restrictive access is interesting in light of the polar caps having some of the most inhospitable climates on Earth.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 2:32 AM
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Cool, I agree with all above stated. If a polar opening existed into the inner earth, that was in the ocean, how it is theorized as physically possible? Well this is all I meant as a possible example as to how the ocean could stay the edges and create that maritime tunnel. With the example of the stacked magnets, I seen how that was totally possible.

I agree with the ether, but how would this effect the vacuum of space? Does it exist? (just a question I had after your show I wanted to ask your take on).

And like Eric dollard said. " nobody knows what the sun js".... he said his guess was "it's plasma"... that's what I was referencing. If the sun had a positive charge and the moon a negative, with the water being diamagnetic, wouldn't you absolutely expect to see some reaction? If it is plasma and electric then you would kinda have to expect each to have a charge. Positive or negative. It's gotta be either. Funny how sea water is outstanding St conducting electricity.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 3:21 AM
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While I have heard that the longitudinal energy from the sun and moon have differing polarities, that is not how the magnetic fields surrounding planets operate as they have both a north and south pole. I would not expect this to have a major impact on the tides due to the weak magnetic field around the moon. I misspoke in my interview when I said there would be a pinch effect in the moon, while there is a concentration of etheric energy inside it has not "kicked off" into a pinch.

The sun has a large magnetic field but it is far away and the earth's magnetic field predominates around the planet and at it's surface except during solar storms which can heavily disrupt the field and very rarely cause it to flip. The tides are largely the result of the proximity of the moon and it's gravitational pull although that does not mean there may not be other longitudinal atmospheric effects that could impact tides to a minor degree under normal circumstances.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 1:50 PM
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The difficulty of determining the exact correlation of the exact energies and causation associated with our reality is that you have to have the correct science base in order to recognize the correct properties of everything and how they relate. If our science is based off from measuring energies with the wrong scientific assumptions then the instruments built to measure effects, affects, properties, etc will lead the research on a slightly skewed path, only leading to more questions and more theories with fundamental holes in them. Until the science is fundamentally revamped with the correct basis we will always be chasing our tails and never be able to correctly unlock the fundamental basis of our reality.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 4:08 PM
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Exactly. In which this topic has came down to two different schools of thought basically, and this is the division of the subject. I couldn't formulate the words as you said them, so I'm glad you came along. I digress. Interesting isn't it though? I accept the ether but I find it next to impossible to explain away solid planetary objects inside the ether. They rule each other out. It's one or the other.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 4:14 PM
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I accept the ether but I find it next to impossible to explain away solid planetary objects inside the ether. They rule each other out. It’s one or the other.

Any particular reason for this stance?

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 5:52 PM
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Man I tried to read that but it appears as a vertical assembly of letters.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 5:57 PM
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If your on a smart phone, turn your device sideways for a landscape view. He said:

"I accept the ether but I find it next to impossible to explain away solid planetary objects inside the ether. They rule each other out. It’s one or the other."

Any particular reason for this stance?

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 9:55 PM
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Another 2 major problem we have is within the scientific process and ego. The nature of our reality has been proven to be elastic and fluid in nature with unexplained Phenomenon in all areas of scientific research that are not repeatable. This conundrum is a major problem. Science has to have steady, repeatable results but the true nature of reality is not always steady and repeatable so they ignore those instances and move on instead of allowing them into the research and trying to understand the anything thats not easily repeatable with their criteria and set of laws. Which leads to the other major problem: ego.

The ego of the scientists will not allow them to admit they might be wrong. Even faced with a good amount of evidence they will ignore, argue against or try to discredit the evidence at all cost.

Even given the current climate of, and inherent properties within, the scientific community and the processes that are adhered to (which are a necessity in almost all circumstances), its my opinion that there is more proof that our universe is electric in nature. Almost an organic electrical digital nature with a consciousness with the Ether being an informational force of potentiality that flows through everything. So the Ether has the ability to hold things apart or together but also intelligently keep a balance of things. Since the Ether permeates all things it has the ability to actively (consciously) keep a balance dependent upon all the factors. The Ether uses energies as both an informative input as well as apply them as forces of work to accomplish a balance in the system.

I believe that Tesla and others recognized this and tapped into the potential of the Ether If you properly create a pathway for the Ether to apply potentiality to in the form of energetic force by way of creating an imbalance, the Ether will then apply the correct amount of energy to balance the circumstance. If you apply an electric motor to the Ether device you could increase the work output and the Ether force would always supply the correct amount of potential energy to accommodate the power demand.

Now, if you put these in terms of a universe, solar system, sun or planet you can see how the bodies could be looked at like an Ether apparatus... or transformer, like Eric Dollard explained the Sun is in his best estimate. So instead of the sun warming the Earth by its proximity or rays, there is a constant imbalance of energy the Earth needs, the Ether senses it and uses the energies around to apply the correct amount. We know the Earth, Sun and moon are different than what we have been told as well as the true nature of reality. They all have to be in harmony and have a level of communication between them in order for things to work. Nature is the master of efficiency. I think the answers are both very difficult and very simple. The difficulty is rethinking and relearning everything we know. The simplicity is that the nature of our reality, while complex, will always use the most simple way to accomplish the tasks with the least amount of energy loss/transference.

I'm not sure if this helped you visualize or understand the "Harmony of the Spheres" at it were, but I hope it shed enough light in the darkness for you to find your path to the information and understanding you desire.

 
Posted : October 15, 2016 11:01 PM
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I know the two of you are conversing about the video and how the science can be applied to further other theories. I'm just trying to filter the information past the current theories and laws of physics to help apply them to a clean slate so we can try to realize the true physics... which I believe has already been recognized and put aside or covered up. In addition, I wanted to further a few points along a path that leads to a bigger picture, realize the nature of the entirety of it and suggest a path back to the conversation with a different approach in an attempt to understand the subject in a different light.

 
Posted : October 16, 2016 12:36 AM
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The difficulty is rethinking and relearning everything we know.

Yes, and without such a rethinking and relearning, how far could we get. It's been being worked around for four centuries and here we are, stuck to a planet, not understanding how.

When we say "electric universe," how much might the discussion evolve if we were to think "electrostatic" instead of "electromagnetic?"

Only the existence of a field of force can account for the motions of the bodies as observed...

We deal with magnetism from electric force only where there is an electric current. Such current requires a conducting medium. The force, or voltage if you will, is not inert when current is not flowing. When we alternate the current, whether at one cycle in ten minutes, or into the high gigahertz, we can radiate EM waves. These waves plug along at so-called light speed. Pull the conduction out of the picture and just holding the charge; has everything ceased to have effects of action at distance?

Who has ever measured the static charge of this Earth, or any celestial sphere? We are as fish in the ocean, wondering what wet might be. What created the thunderbolts of the ancients was not the plasma current discharges, it was of the electric potentials of the spinning spheres! The currents were secondary, and only made possible by a certain proximity of those spheres involved.

The electric universe is powered by potential, acting via the ethers, right now, instantaneously, omnidirectionally. The ether is not a stationary and fixed unit, it is a fluid, acting as a fluid, spinning the whole enchilada, based on potential at the root of all energy. It is not material, it makes material from itself by inducing motion. It spins itself into the whorls of the primary first units we can call matter. It spins the galaxies around each other.

Michelson's and Morley's interferometer was created to prove or disprove the existence of a stationary ether in space. It did disprove this. It did not disprove the existence of the ether in which it, the experiment itself, was being moved, along with Southern California and the rest of the planet, solar system, galaxy, and beyond.

Anti-gravity, as the term is used today, is a misnomer. All our forms of flight (at least the ones the powers that be are willing to show us) are anti-gravity. The flying saucers are gravity generators! They are operated with a knowledge of electro-gravitation and an understand that this planet has a negative static charge at its surface. They produce a negative electorstatic charge on their surfaces and zip the fuck out of here, pronto!

More later if anyone wants to talk about it. We might go after the Universal Law of Gravitation if you'd like. That's how far back into the problems of science we'll have to venture if we ever want to get it sorted properly.

 
Posted : November 5, 2016 9:50 PM
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Very interesting. I sure wish I had the time and resources to do a proper investigation to figure it all out. I'm not sure how far I would make it before I reach the limit of my gray matter but it sure would be fun to find out!

 
Posted : November 8, 2016 2:12 AM
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