I recently heard Greg on tinfoil hat peddling fear about ticks. I too used to believe in weaponized ticks. You know the type of tick the “they” can alter in perpetuity to create yet another invisible monster so that the people walk around scared shitless about everything. I thought I had Lyme disease coinfections for many years and submitted myself to “mengele medicine” and green allopathy as a result. I’d suggest learning about other ideas as to why folks fall sick in the first place after a “tick bite” . How can you be so certain that this exists as explained or this is the only way to understand this enough for you to live in fear and peddle fear. It’s really getting to be absurd with all forms of media. It requires hyper vigilance anytime fear is weaponized and to ask some basic questions. We get one body to take care of in life, best to enjoy the limited time we have in this realm.
I'm curious to hear your ideas about how tick bite and disease expression interact
Why does one person get sick while another person doesn’t get sick when supposedly exposed to the same thing / conditions ? I think this timeless question is a life long study. I tend to gravitate to modalities that describe and or explain internal imbalance and a weakened barrier.
Weaponized ticks. I too was exposed to a lot of these ideas early on. It’s enticing because the arm chair skeptic will deny folks feeling sick with active symptoms to the point of being debilitated. So it’s a natural response to consider secret programs and claims and Lyme Connecticut and so on. As it is there’s so much fuckery so this type of mythology helps fill in those gaps.
Mark Kulacz from Housatonic live , Sasha Latypova , Jonathan Couey are good on the subject of weaponized ticks. They all have thoughtful ideas to articulate that are not sensationalist.
I’m a fan of Dr Thomas Cowan since he does a great job walking simple folks such as myself through the scientific method and having a more holistic way of looking at life.
I thought about how to keep my answer relatively brief since it’s easy to rant about such things!
@jollybee haha yeah it's really a big topic and I'm definitely not under any illusion that I'm an expert or able to make definite statements about it.
There does seem to be an element of infection/parasitism/contagion involved in our health. Maybe it's energetic more so than physical, I'm not sure.
I'm really interested to check out some of those people you mentioned about ticks, always interested in new info and perspectives.
I definitely lean toward the terrain model of health and see a full picture of reality that goes way beyond the narrow materialist paradigm we are shoved into. But the belief in contagion is definitely sticky, in my experience.
The more I learn and experience the less certainty I have about most things. I don’t know the mechanism of contagion in fact I think contagion as described is poorly understood.
Observing nature teaches me many things. No matter what nature adapts and adapts in a way that it figures out the most efficient way at life. That’s why ultimately I’m white pilled because the fevered dreams of the psychopaths are irrelevant.
I’m a simple person and I try to apply straight forward ways to think about things.
An active volcano is an incredibly violent, destructive and painful process and yet after the soil is rich with life. The reductionist approach doesn’t account for whole functioning ecosystems or the ability of nature to take care of itself. I look at fecal transplant therapy as an example. Maybe by introducing a whole functioning system into the sick person the sick learns from the healthy how to be healthy… meaning there’s a process of mimicry and learning. It’s not just about infusion / innoculation. Kids mimic their parents all the time.
Am I worried about alpha gal or ticks? No. Do I think they should be dumping ticks and mosquitoes? No. Do I believe their claims? No.
If I’m bit first thing I would do is review my response. Am I panicking? Am I worried? Am I scared ? That would start setting the stage for my response how to take care of myself.
Then I’d remove tick (if there is one) careful not to induce trauma in tick as tick is more likely to shoot out poison with trauma. Hopefully if I’ve done my homework I can do a good job taking care of myself.
I’ll try and find some succinct links. I see mark from housatonic.live is no longer streaming which is unfortunate but he is so throttled. Sadly the days of the open internet are becoming more distant.
@personman I am curious about that too. I have gotten bit lotso times, no illness. One time one had got in my armpit and I didnt notice it for a couple days. I prolly didnt shower for a couple days because I enjoy living like a savage sometimes. Anyway I got sick as hell from it, I think because the proximity of the bite to lymph nodes. I took doxycyline for 10 days, relapsed into bad symptoms, and then finished treating it with huge amounts of ginger+red root tea and other herbs capsules I made. If I had got bit on say, my elbow maybe I wouldnt have fallen ill.
@madam-stone-leg sucks that you felt ill. I’m glad you knew how to take care of yourself 😍
The research by Kris Newby about lyme is pretty compelling. Greg interviewed her, it was very good stuff. Her book makes a strong case for ticks as vectors for disease and the nazis who gain of fuctioned them. You may also learn about "gu syndrome." It is a term which describes very difficult diseases which arise from double-stuff parasites (triple stuffed, etc). Disease weapons are ancient. Chinese word "gu" has myriad meanings many of which relate to this concept of a worm within a worm. When one parasite is destroyed another within it becomes active and presents another unpleasant symptom profile. Which is why diseases like Lyme are so difficult to treat. Furthermore modern medical tests suck at pinning down the bugs with their mediocre blood tests. Anyway, I do agree that there is no sense in being afraid, but if you have ever been sick after a tick bite it is extremely debilitating. Doxycycline works if taken early but often docs wont prescribe it for long enough to break the cycle. Herbs are effective at treating Lyme symptoms. Read "Healing Lyme" by Stephen H Buhner, he worked so hard to compile and bring around info about plant medicines and lyme disease. Rip Mr. Buhner. Anytime I get a tick bite I clean it, put a dab of activated charcoal salve (homemade by me) and band aid. Then I take huge amounts of astragalus root and a bit of andrographis for a couple days. A tick bite has got me real sick before and prevention is worth it in my book. No sense in being scared but hiding from good information and calling it fear peddling is DUM
There are a lot of experts working on interesting narratives based on compelling research. Many experts. Many opinions. Gain of function is one of those narratives that get a tremendous amount of oxygen. Movies, books, tv, graphic novels, politicians, newspapers, podcasts. It’s deeply enmeshed and seeded within culture.
Based on my own experience having been to many Lyme literate clinics, holistic clinics, hospitals and spent lots of time and money on such endeavors. The testing route (can mean a whole myriad of tests) is a whack-A-mole reductionist approach which is a failure at enabling people to achieve good health. It teaches if I’m one of the lucky ones and a test results in a name of X pathogen and I treat it what ends up happening in practical life terms is I felt better felt worse felt better felt worse, test and see what other name comes up and wash rinse and repeat. They say it’s like peeling layers… taking all these tests, getting all these names or hints at names and treating. The basic problem with this approach is that it’s laden with relapse and it’s brutal and it does not provide a basis of living life in the best of health. Thank god I stopped approaching my life this way.
The life of what I call a professional patient. I lived this way for many years and the more one is exposed to this ideology the more ‘pre-screenings’ the high priest of this order , the doctor throw at you because that’s what good and responsible people do constantly medicalize themselves and their kids. The boogieman of gain of function dovetails beautifully into this. It’s such a scary invisible monster of course it would require all this medicalization as folks are desperate.
I don’t think the “they” will ever stop in their pursuit to dominate biology. They can throw any claim out into the media sphere as they own most media. Does it mean that they’re successful? Or that it’s true? Most of the battle is winning hearts and minds of people.
Maybe Greg can interview different people on this subject just to get a variety of views points? Not sure that’s of interest but it may help tame the fear.
@jollybee Ah, Jolly I see your perspective more now. Indeed, it would be an interesting iterview to hear more of what you are getting at. Yeah, the over medicalization of illness is hard to witness. I don't have health insurance and refuse to get it. I haven't had it for my entire adulthood. So some of the testing/treatment traps simply arent in my realm of possobilities. It puts me in a great position to learn and heal when I do get sick. But I do get ill sometimes and sometimes I need help to get better. The help may be food, plants, specific medical diagnostic tests, drugs... whatever works. I'm pretty skeptical of the drugs though many of them are excellent in certain circumstances.
As for gain of function, it happened, is happening, and it is probably bad. It is better to look at the information even when it is scary so that we may be prepared and avoid the boogers, and be ready to treat loved ones effectively when they get sick. Avoiding the big pharma shots, their "cures" is a great start. Do you know how many monkey labs are in your state? Think they are just breeding cute pets in those things? I live in Georgia and am astonished to learn about the many monkey labs already running and more being built. The Centers for Disease Creation and other private companies are working on something in there. I dont think it is good. So I avoid the public water supply and avoid the various poisons best I can. I think we worry about the point where these highly funded, secretive operations brimming with bad ideas become impossible to avoid. Thus the monster stories to entertain that portion of the collective imagination
Also, Jolly I am curious about the other perspectives u mentioned. Will you share some links from these folks you mentioned? I am familiar w/Cowan but not much the others. Have any specific articles/vids about this subject? Also thank you
@madam-stone-leg centers for disease creation! lol. That’s really funny and tragic.
