Join The Higherside Chats podcast as Greg Carlwood hosts Illuminati defector, Leo Zagami. As a former 33rd degree member of the Freemasons, ranking member of the p2 lodge and born from a lineage of aristocratic Illuminati blood, Leo has an acute knowledge of the powerful network consisting nefarious new world order elite and exactly what their future plans entail.

After years of grooming by the powers that be, in 2006 Leo dissolved many of his alliances and started exposing freemason beliefs, members of the elite societies and their agendas. The author of works such as Confessions of an Illuminati Vol. 2: The Time of Revelation and Tribulation Leading Up to 2020, Leo Zagami offers authentic insights into the 2016 new world order agenda and what we can expect in years to come.We know that only a privileged, nefarious few truly make the big decisions of the world. Referred to as the Illuminati or the New World Order, they are a powerful network made up of royal bloodlines, secret societies, occult orders, shady banksters, and corporate oligarchs.

2:10 Greg and Leo start by breaking down his story for newcomers by defining the Illuminati and elaborating on his history with them. Listen as Leo describes how the Illuminati is a fragmented group of secret societies that recently unified their intentions to work together for the dawn of a new era.
6:00 Listen as Leo explains the barriers and challenges he’s had to overcome in order to bring this information to the public. Listen as Leo outlines his works with Illuminati members and details his aristocratic family lineage.
15:42 Listen as Leo details the Masonic roots of the Rastafarian movement, dating back to the Ancient Mystic Order of Ethiopia.
16:50 Leo elaborates on freemason secrets as we cover another theme found in his book, the rise of freemasonry throughout China, or what he calls the rise of the dragon.
20:00 Listen as Greg and Leo discuss the ethnicity of the power pyramid. As Leo states, when you come from these bloodlines and view it in your daily life it becomes very obvious. And for a person in his position, gatherings with these people can become quite controversial. Leo goes on to describe a manifesto written by a new movement of Rosicrucians that emerged in the early 2000s and their core belief in the resurrection of Christ and that true Christianity it not merely a question of but racial karma.
26:00 Leo discusses a past interview with Project Camelot in which he mentions both Zecharia Sitchin and Balducci. He brings us up-to-date on where his most recent level of research into this topic has led him.
28:30 Join Greg and Leo as the detail for listeners that the Vatican is hiding what they’re doing in Mount Graham and how the New World Order is hiding the alien agenda because of their involvement in it.
34:42 Listen as Leo details how the worldwide conspiracy is happening now with the US elections. As we all the Clinton family in conjunction with friends such as George Soros, have created an unstoppable machine with far reaching tentacles.
38:50 Greg and Leo dive into the meat on the bones by discussing the elite’s use of occult magic. Leo walks us through the specifics of the relationship between the elites and entities they use as well as tips for psychic defense.

44:42 Join Greg and Leo and they detail the sighting of the Holy Mary of Medjugorje.

With bizarre circumstances circulating around these visions, the Pope has dismissed any notion of its legitimacy, and several mysterious disappearances, including a priest, have started happening.
47:00 The United Nations building in New York curiously has a room for meditation which Leo contends is where the New World Order occult direct their egregore as  part of a project for the New World Order. Satanism and theosophy are deeply entrenched beliefs of many elites in the UN and Illuminati.
56:00 Listen as Greg and Leo elaborate on the future calamities humanity faces. As Leo states the dice has been cast with plans set into motion we must prepare to endure these tumultuous years leading up to 2020. With an assortment of catastrophes on the menu, Greg and Leo chew on what the elite plans to serve.
1:01:00 Leon contends that “not only human thought forms exist within our universe and power can be generated in our universe and planetary bodies by harnessing what the ancients called the music of the spheres.” Listen as Leo and Greg try to untangle why the Illuminati may be using these radiations of a powerful magnetic nature, and how they are wielding the power of astrology against us.
1:06:00 Sirius hold particular importance and is a recurring theme throughout the Illuminati because of it’s linked with the energy and entities with which the Illuminati communicate with.
1:10:00 To offer some insight to listeners, Greg and Leo help sort out the history and involvement of reptilians in the Illuminati. Although we share similarities to the reptilian brain, occult practitioners take things one step further by building relationships with reptilian entities of a demonic nature.
1:117:00 No episode of THC is complete without a trip to the Hollow Earth. Listen as Greg and Leo discuss the Thule Society and its Nazi involvement. Leo contends there are entities from other dimensions seeking refuge underground.
1:27:45 Join Greg and Leo as they speculate what could lay beneath the Vatican such as alien artifacts, the history of humanity and bones of giants. In a newly released documentary, The Unholy Sea, listeners can get a better understanding of all the details.
1:38:50 Greg and Leo discuss the variations of magical practices from the East to the West. As Leo states, the Eastern practitioners are most likely more skilled and refined in their summoning of spirits.
1:42:20 Listen as Leo details how Hollywood and the Illuminati work in conjunction to spread Satanism and push the agenda of the New World Order. Leo details his experience in Hollyweird and the symbolism that smacked him square in the face.
1:49:00 As the interview begins to wind down, Greg and Leo discuss the possible solutions including the creation by the masses of a positive egregore steeped in good intentions and good will.

Want more Leo Zagami? Check out his books Confessions on an Illuminati Vol. 1&2 on Amazon, as well as his work Pope Francis: The Last Pope? Money, Masons, and Occultism in the Decline of the Catholic Church.

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